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Re: [AquaticLife] Re: ich?

Hi Al,

Carpet type plants are well beyond my limited expertise as the only
plants I use are simple & easy to grow without CO2 with around 8 hours of
lighting per day. In addition to the Anacharis I have straight Vallis & a
couple of Hornworts all of which grow in profusion & need manually cutting
back or pruning on a regular basis or they would take over the tank. My
water is 19 inches deep & the lights are approx 4 inches above the water.

John*<o)))<*


On 31 July 2013 04:29, Al Keep <al_keep_fish@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I hope so John.
> I'll be taking the plant plunge in a couple days, and the locally run fish
> store only has a few plants, and they don't look too healthy... but their
> fish are great. I'll be getting them at Petsmart, as they have many plant
> varieties, and they look healthy; so hopefully they do well. They don't
> however have any "carpet" type plants that will do ok with no co2.... if
> there is such a thing.... I've read varying opinions; so that will have to
> wait. I really like the little baby tears, but I've read they need co2, and
> I don't want to get into that, as it's just a little tank beside the bed.
> :-)>>>
>
> Al.
>
> --- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, SIMMONDS JOHN <simmonds.john@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thinking about box stores in general, we have Pets At Home in the UK
> which
> > sounds like the PetSmart chain in the US. What I would say in their
> defense
> > is that their plants are really first class! I bought several bunches of
> > top quality Anacharis almost 2 years ago & it's never stopped
> growing-don't
> > think I'll ever need to buy any more.
> >
> > John*<o)))<*
> >
> >
> > On 30 July 2013 12:42, joe t <jett07002@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > > Absolutely! A quarantine tank is a MUST. I didn't mention it cause you
> and
> > > a few others had already said Quarantine Tank. But no one mentioned
> > > checking the fish at the store. When I read PetSmart I guess I flipped,
> > > cause it certainly happened before!!
> > >
> > > joet
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>


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Re: [MANCiNGiKANMaS] Babon hampala

 

Kenapa mas? Bangun2 bukannya sahur nalah buka milis....kangen sama kumbul ngetrik ye?

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[AquaticLife] Re: Live Plants......

 

Thanks Harry, that's a good list to have.
I went to the store last week and wrote down what they had, so I could read up and see what I could use.
I have 2 13w spiral daylight 6500k bulbs ready to go... I'm thinking that should be ok for a ten gallon that is only 12 inches deep.
The plants I think would work from there would be....
corkscrew vallisneria for one back corner.. it will need haircuts...
money wort.
anubas or java fern to tie to the wood.
1-2 marimo moss balls to cut up and stick on the wood.... as they are supposed to be slow growing and won't take over the tank like java moss would.
and a shortish foreground plant.... haven't come up with anything yet, I guess I can always see if I can order something, if I can come up with a suitable low tech plant for that real estate.
I should probably pick up some fertilizer spikes while I'm at it, to start them off well with.
The tank has been up and running for a couple of days, and has cleared up nicely.
I may just start out with 2-3 plants first, to see if they survive me.
:-)>>>
On we go.

Al.

--- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, harry perry <harryfisherman@...> wrote:
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> Hi Al,
>
>      The biggest challenge with buying plants for any size tank is the lighting.
>
> The traditional hoods are usually about 1 to 1.5 watts per gallon.
>
> This requires low light plants. Usually pet stores don't differentiate.
>
> This is a list, probably not complete. You might want to print this out and take it with you. Your live plants will "melt" without the proper lighting.
>
> Java Fern - Microsorum pteropus
> Windelov Java Fern, Windelov Fern - Microsorum pteropus 'Windelov'
> Narrow Leaf Java Fern - Microsorum pteropus v. 'narrow leaf'
> Java Moss - Vesicularia dubyana
> Green Hygro - Hygrophila polysperma
> *Sunset Hygro - Hygrophila polysperma 'Rosanervig'
> Ceylon Hygro - Hygrophila polysperma 'Ceylon'
> Rotala Rotundifolia - Rotala rotundifolia
> Rotala Rotundifolia sp. Green - Rotala rotundifolia sp. 'Green'
> Rotala Indica - Rotala indica
> Hornwort - Ceratophylum demersum
> Parrots Feather - Myriophyllum aquaticum
> Moneywort, Water Hyssop - Bocapa monnieri
> Brazilian Pennywort, Pennywort - Hydrocotyle leucocephala
> Crypt Wendtii - Cryptocoryne wendtii
> Crypt Balansae - Cryptocoryne Balansae
> Pygmy Crypt - Cryptocoryne pygmaea
> Guppy Grass - Najas guadalupensis
> Anubias barteri - Anubias barteri v. barteri
> Anubias barteri 'marble' - Anubias barteri 'marble'
> Anubias barteri v. 'glabra' - Anubias barteri v. 'glabra'
> Anubias nana - Anubias barteri v. 'nana'
> Coffee leaf anubias - Anubias barteri v. 'coffeefolia'
> Crypt retrospiralis - Cryptocoryne retrospiralis
> Crypt spiralis - Cryptocoryne spiralis
> Golden nana - Anubias barteri v. 'nana golden'
> Narrow leaf nana - Anubias barteri v. 'nana narrow leaf'
> Petite nana - Anubias barteri v. nana 'petite'
> Philippine Java Fern - Microsorum pteropus 'Philippine'
> Red Java fern - Microsorum pteropus "red"
> Crypt Becketii - Cryptcoryne becketii
> Pelia - Monosolenium tenerum
> Waterwheel Plant - Aldrovanda vesiculosa
> Bacopa - Bacopa caroliniana
> African Water Fern - Bolbitis heudelotii
> Hornwort - Ceratophyllum submersum
> Crypt Aponogetifolia - Cryptocoryne aponogetifolia
> Micro Crypt - Cryptocoryne petchii
> Tropica Sword - Echinodorus parviflorus 'Tropica'
> Downoi - Pogostemon helferi
>
>
> Harry
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Al Keep <al_keep_fish@...>
> To: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:29 PM
> Subject: [AquaticLife] Re: ich?
>
>
>
>  
> I hope so John.
> I'll be taking the plant plunge in a couple days, and the locally run fish store only has a few plants, and they don't look too healthy... but their fish are great. I'll be getting them at Petsmart, as they have many plant varieties, and they look healthy; so hopefully they do well. They don't however have any "carpet" type plants that will do ok with no co2.... if there is such a thing.... I've read varying opinions; so that will have to wait. I really like the little baby tears, but I've read they need co2, and I don't want to get into that, as it's just a little tank beside the bed.
> :-)>>>
>
> Al.
>
> --- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, SIMMONDS JOHN <simmonds.john@> wrote:
> >
> > Thinking about box stores in general, we have Pets At Home in the UK which
> > sounds like the PetSmart chain in the US. What I would say in their defense
> > is that their plants are really first class! I bought several bunches of
> > top quality Anacharis almost 2 years ago & it's never stopped growing-don't
> > think I'll ever need to buy any more.
> >
> > John*<o)))<*
> >
> >
> > On 30 July 2013 12:42, joe t <jett07002@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > > Absolutely! A quarantine tank is a MUST. I didn't mention it cause you and
> > > a few others had already said Quarantine Tank. But no one mentioned
> > > checking the fish at the store. When I read PetSmart I guess I flipped,
> > > cause it certainly happened before!!
> > >
> > > joet
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
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[AquaticLife] Re: Qyarantine tank.

 

Hi Harry and John:
I would like to add here, the quarantine tank does not spell automatic medication. The whole purpose of the quarantine tank is to be sure the new fish are not having problems. The tank should be clean and void of any decorations to aid in seeing them and, of course, later netting them to their new home.

I usually quarantine any new specimens for at least a week, sometimes two. If a problem occurs then I medicate only as necessary. Like for ich, as Ray has mentioned over and over, high temperature and some salt. Something else, use the medications as appropriate. If this is necessary their "hospital" stay will last as long as necessary until I am certain it is gone.

joet

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Re: [MANCiNGiKANMaS] Babon hampala

 

Di magelang ini mas

adi wisaksono

On Jul 31, 2013 1:32 PM, "Mustika J Sanusi" <mustikajs@yahoo.co.id> wrote:
 



Kurang lengkap info-nya nih mas

Berat berapa ?
Panjang Berapa ?
Dipancing disungai apa ?

kayak wartawan ya mas...........



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