Fish: May 2013

Friday, May 31, 2013

Re: [AquaticLife] Re: Question about fishy smell

Hi Dawn

Thank you for your kind response.

EHEIM Pro 3e has - Mechpro 25% and substratpro 75%.(canister is 8L capacity)
EHEIM 2260 has ceramic rings 50% and Mechpro 50%.(canister is 18L)

Water is changed around 20%-25% every alternate day, i need to clear the droppings etc, big cagey about messing up water quality, such large volume will get difficult to rectify and it takes time to get spoiled too i guess. When i remove droppings i also sort of churn a piece of substrate to get buried smaller particles too. The filters are cleaned every 2-3 months. I do not clean both at the same time, give some 2 weeks or so inbetween.

In case it helps, the water parameters are:

KH-20
GH-13
ph-8.4
tds-800

Input tapwater is 7.4 KH and GH is the same

Kindly do let me know if any other information is required please.

Thanks & Regards
Siva

________________________________
From: dawnshungryeyes4u2c <dawnshungryeyes4u2c@yahoo.com>
To: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 1 June 2013 1:15 AM
Subject: [AquaticLife] Re: Question about fishy smell

Can you tell us what filter medias you are using and what water change schedule you have for this tank? How often are you doing water changes? How much water at a time? How often are you changing or cleaning filter medias?

Dawn

--- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, "Siva" <sub_mails@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I have 4 tanks, and the biggest is 6x2x2(180G/640L) capacity. I am unable to correlate, but now and then i get sort of fish smell.
>
> It is non-planted tank, with sand substrate, community tank having reasonably large fishes, like tinfoil, BGK, synodontis, archer, blue dolphin etc. Has some root-driftwood and some rocks and mud & plastic pipe for my BGK. Most of the tank inmates are 6in and above. Runs an EHEIM 2260 and EHEIM Professional 3e 2078.
>
> Strangely i do not get the same smell in other tanks, the other tanks have the normal water/mud smell. Any clues ? The remaining 3 tanks, one is barebottom and others are planted.
>
> Water parameters are normal, the tank has been around for 2 years or so, and reestablished 6 months back when i had to move into another apartment.
>
> Do let me know if you require any information.
>
> Thank you for your kind reply.
>
> Regards
> Siva
> Bangalore,India
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

__._,_.___

Reply via web post

Reply to sender

Reply to group

Start a New Topic

Messages in this topic (3)

Recent Activity:

New Members 3
New Photos 133

Visit Your Group

AquaticLife � A great way to share experience & ask ?s

Please, DELETE this line and EVERYTHING below it when replying, Thank You.
��`�.��.><((((�>.��`�.��.��`�.�><((((�> �.��`�.�. , .��`�..><((((�>
PLEASE, when you REPLY to a post, DELETE all TEXT that is NOT important to the reply & if CHANGING the TOPIC of the original message MODIFY the SUBJECT LINE -> i.e. "new subject (was re: old subject)" <-
<�((((><.��`�.��.��`�.�<�((((><�.��`�.�. , .��`�..<�((((><��`�.��.
We Thank You in Advance for Your HELP in this matter.

If you do not want all of the groups emails, instead of unsubscribing, you can change your delivery option by clicking on "Edit My Membership" on the home page.

Or e-mail aquaticlife-digest@yahoogroups.com to receive the digest, which includes up to 25 posts at a time in a single email

Or email aquaticlife-nomail@yahoogroups.com for the No E-Mail option where you will still be able to read messages on the group and post replies.

Or email aquaticlife-normal@yahoogroups.com to receive individual e-mails.

Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use • Send us Feedback

__,_._,___

Re: [AquaticLife] Betta fish as a gift?

Well, the 3 year old isn't going to maintain the tank, so I'd check with your cousin.

My brother has expressed interest in an aquarium from time to time, until he realized that there's work involved.

Dora

From: Ava
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 9:19 AM
To: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AquaticLife] Betta fish as a gift?

So, my cousin and his 3 year old daughter recently moved into our basement. She has become entranced with my tanks, which is awesome, because not much keeps her entertained other than the television and we don't want that. She'll come into my room and look into my 10gallon betta tank, which also has a few african dwarf frogs. "FROG FROG!!! LOOK A FISHIE!" It's asian-zen themed, so I have a dragon bubbler, and a jade buddha in there. She'll point to the bubbler and say "DRAH-GAW" And then at the buddha and go "And dat's JESUS!" She loves watching feeding time for my axolotl tank, and her absolute FAVORITE thing, is what we call "Fish kisses." I make sure our hands are clean, and she'll dip her finger into the goldfish tank, and the fish come up and "kiss" her fingers, just looking for food. Haha.
Anyway, I have a spare 10 gallon tank/filter/hood/gravel... I was thinking of possibly setting up her own betta tank! I'd have to pick up a heater and a light, maybe some seachem products to help the cycle along. I think she's too young to have this be a responsibility lesson, but I'm hoping it'll keep her interested long enough to not care about TV as much. I'd have to clear it with her dad, because if they ever move he'd take the tank with him. Has anyone ever worked with children and fish? Do you think it'd be worth the trouble? Anyone given a fish as a gift? I hope this works! Thanks!

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

__._,_.___

Reply via web post

Reply to sender

Reply to group

Start a New Topic

Messages in this topic (2)

Recent Activity:

New Members 3
New Photos 133

Visit Your Group

Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use • Send us Feedback

__,_._,___

[AquaticLife] Re: ICH ...thing to consider. no dormant stage in the lifecycle

Dawn, You didn't look very closely at the References if you find
little to support the major thesis of the wikipedia explanation of
the Parasite "has no dormant stage in the lifecycle. Ich does not
lie in wait for a weakened fish to infect. However, any facto . . . "

"Obviously the whole thing could have been written by a child . . . " ?
I think not.
There is a lot of good information within the article and it is worth
knowing it is there.

One might check out the references:
http://www.metapathogen.com/ich/

Edward J. Noga, Fish Disease: Diagnosis and Treatment

http://www.aces.edu/dept/fisheries/ , University of Florida,
Cooperative Extension Services

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/static/documents/Research/Whitespot.pdf

Marshall Ostrow's book on Goldfish is also referenced and could be a
good starting point for our Goldfish keeper.

AND TO JOHN's thought:
In 1992, I needed a way to check to see that I had added enough
Thiosulfate to completely remove the Chloramine from my tap water.
The amount of free Chlorine varied a lot month to month. I didn't
want to add too much Thiosulfate because it can drop the pH if used
in excess as it reacts with water and Oxygen releasing H2S and
Sulfuric acid. Just the correct amount is most economical as well.

I found a good formula for OTO Chlorine test solution and doubled the
concentration of the active ingredient. I have offered this for sale
since. I use this liquid test solution to test every batch of change
water I draw. I have checked the water in a lot of fish tanks since
1992 for Chlorine. I have been shocked at how much Chlorine most fish
will tolerate. Even my Killifish will live in 0.01 to 0.05ppm
Chlorine. However, if a tank is empty of fish and has just had a bout
with Ich, a complete water change with tap water would kill the free
swimming stages and the Chloramine could be replaced with a major
water change in a couple of days giving the life cycle of the
Parasite a bath of Chlorine for 7 to 10 days and one would not have
to add any chemicals to the tank to kill the Parasite, just cool it
off and treat with Chlorine remover and restart the Bio-cycle to be
Ich free.

>John, you are correct about chlorine being a dangerous way to
>attempt to treat any fish. Chlorine also kills beneficial bacteria
>on contact. Put simply, chlorine is toxic and that is one major
>reason why we in the fish hobby teach the use of water conditioners
>to all... to remove/detoxify the chlorine found in many water
>supplies.
>I read through that article at Wikipedia and was quite upset by the
>number of errors in their information. If you noticed, there was a
>tag/note in that article explaining that nobody claimed their place
>as author to that information and provided no references, thus that
>particular writing could at some point be removed if it is
>challenged. If I had the time to devote to it right now I would be
>contacting them at Wikipedia and challenging it myself.
>
>This is one more example of not believing everything you read just
>because it's on the internet. For all we know that article was
>written by a child or someone who has no real knowledge or
>experience with fish or ich. The way that article is written I
>would have to suspect it is one of those because it shows a large
>lack of knowledge about the topic.
>
>Dawn
>
>--- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, SIMMONDS JOHN <simmonds.john@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Charles,
>>
>> I was interested to see Chlorine treatment mentioned as one of the
>> options on the Wikipedia page for treating Koi & Goldfish-surely the
>> poisonous effects of the Chlorine would make this treatment deadly or am I
>> missing something?
>>
>> John*<o)))<*
>>
>>
>> On 31 May 2013 03:48, Charles Harrison <charles@...> wrote:
>>
>> > **
>> >
>> >
>> > Please reference:
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthyophthirius_multifiliis
>> >
> > > "There is no dormant stage in the lifecycle. Ich does not lie in wait
> > > for a weakened fish to infect. However, any facto . . . "
> > >
>> > There have been many serious investigations into the life cycle of
>> > the Protozoa.
>> >
>> > Also PLEASE Note:
>> >
>> > " Heat treatment
>> > Heat treatment can be highly effective, and it can be combined with
>> > other treatments. However, it can only be used on fish that can
>> > tolerate high water temperatures, and is unsuitable for cold water
>> > fish like koi and goldfish, but even in those cases, a higher water
>> > temperature will accelerate the life-cycle of the parasite, allowing
>> > other treatments to take effect sooner."
>> >
>> > ~~~~~~~~~
>> >
>> > There is very good information in this reference and the references
> > > included.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

__._,_.___

Reply via web post

Reply to sender

Reply to group

Start a New Topic

Messages in this topic (3)

Recent Activity:

New Members 3
New Photos 133

Visit Your Group

Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use • Send us Feedback

__,_._,___

[AquaticLife] Re: Ick, how to get it...

I tried using salt and its working really well.. but its table salt, which I didnt know was bad... im getting aquarium salt now to treat the ick and I am borrowing a heater.

--- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, "nonstopmom888" <ehebens@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> last year I read a lot about ick online and as far as I remember:
>
> the parasite goes through a cycle within which it is also present in the water for a little while (free floating), looking for new hosts. It is so small, that you cannot see it but during that stage vacuuming the gravel is not enough. If one parasite stays floating in the water it will come back and multiply. If they are floating in the water they are most vulnerable and you have to kill it at that time. Therefore the treatment has to last as long as a complete life cycle lasts.
>
> What people sometimes forget and it was warned about it: During the small time that the parasite is in its free floating stage it can be on anything in the aquarium. Which means if you buy plants out of a tank that might have infected fish which in it you can catch ick by introducing those plants into your tank....
>
> Good luck with the treatment!
> Nora
>

__._,_.___

Reply via web post

Reply to sender

Reply to group

Start a New Topic

Messages in this topic (2)

Recent Activity:

New Members 3
New Photos 133

Visit Your Group

AquaticLife · A great way to share experience & ask ?s

Please, DELETE this line and EVERYTHING below it when replying, Thank You.
·´¯`·.¸¸.><((((º>.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><((((º> ¸.·´¯`·.¸. , .·´¯`·..><((((º>
PLEASE, when you REPLY to a post, DELETE all TEXT that is NOT important to the reply & if CHANGING the TOPIC of the original message MODIFY the SUBJECT LINE -> i.e. "new subject (was re: old subject)" <-
<º((((><.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸<º((((><¸.·´¯`·.¸. , .·´¯`·..<º((((><·´¯`·.¸¸.
We Thank You in Advance for Your HELP in this matter.

If you do not want all of the groups emails, instead of unsubscribing, you can change your delivery option by clicking on "Edit My Membership" on the home page.

Or e-mail aquaticlife-digest@yahoogroups.com to receive the digest, which includes up to 25 posts at a time in a single email

Or email aquaticlife-nomail@yahoogroups.com for the No E-Mail option where you will still be able to read messages on the group and post replies.

Or email aquaticlife-normal@yahoogroups.com to receive individual e-mails.

Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use • Send us Feedback

__,_._,___

Re: [tropical fish club] Algae/Larry

Sorry about this folk, should have gone to Dawn.

Dave.

http://www.thehungersite.com

Click on the hunger site and help feed the hungry.

________________________________
From: david hall <bushrdchapel@yahoo.com>
To: "tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com" <tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 31 May 2013, 22:06
Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Algae/Larry

Here are two pics Dawn.
Plant 2 is slightly enlarged.
Thanks, Dave.

http://www.thehungersite.com

Click on the hunger site and help feed the hungry.

________________________________
From: Dawn Moneyhan <dawnshungryeyes4u2c@yahoo.com>
To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 31 May 2013, 20:21
Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Algae/Larry

Dave, can you email me a copy of that photo only larger in size please? I suspect it is hair algae but it's really difficult to tell for sure what it is when the photo is so small.
Thanks!

Dawn

Dawn Moneyhan
Aquatics Specialist/Nutritionist
To learn more about me go to
http://www.helium.com/users/449334

--- On Fri, 5/31/13, david hall <bushrdchapel@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: david hall <bushrdchapel@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Algae/Larry
To: "tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com" <tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, May 31, 2013, 8:38 AM

Something in your email Dawn, caused me to think that what I though was Java Moss, is Hair Algae.

I have posted a pic in here http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tropicalfishclub/photos/album/1281329942/pic/466705796/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

Perhaps some kind person could tell me what it is. It is growing strongly.

Dave.

http://www.thehungersite.com

Click on the hunger site and help feed the hungry.

________________________________

From: Dawn Moneyhan <dawnshungryeyes4u2c@yahoo.com>

To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2013, 20:10

Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Algae/Larry

No I don't use CO2, I don't use plant fertilizers, no special substrates. I grow the java ferns in a 215 gallon tank, HO T5 lighting, minimal fish load (4 medium size angels, 3 botia striata, 4 juvenile bristlenose, and one very old gold barb that won't likely be around much longer. I dose that tank with Flourish Excel twice/wk because of hair algae issues I have in that and 1 other tank, still not sure why only those 2 tanks, but I was growing the java fern in there before I began dosing with the F.E. and it doesn't seem to have affected the growth rate of the plants. I have 2 species of wisteria, 3 species of crypts, java fern, flame moss, taiwan moss, water sprite, red ruben swords, and dwarf water lettuce growing in that tank and all are doing well. For substrate I use pea gravel in all of my tanks.

I love live plants in my tanks and have them in every tank, even the African cichlid tank. Plants grow well here as long as I accommodate their lighting needs. In one of my 65 gallon tanks with HO T5 lighting I have only naja grass, 1 large angel, 2 gold white clouds, and a bunch of rock work and I have to trim out the naja grass weekly just so the fish can swim through the entire tank. I have the same size tank, same lighting over the African cichlid tank and the naja grass grows well in there too in spite of the fish nibbling on it. Again, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tropicalfishclub/photos/album/1281329942/pic/466705796/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use • Send us Feedback

.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

__._,_.___

Reply via web post

Reply to sender

Reply to group

Start a New Topic

Messages in this topic (58)

Recent Activity:

New Members 2
New Photos 1

Visit Your Group

Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use • Send us Feedback

__,_._,___

Re: [tropical fish club] Algae/Larry

Here are two pics Dawn.
Plant 2 is slightly enlarged.
Thanks, Dave.

http://www.thehungersite.com

Click on the hunger site and help feed the hungry.

________________________________
From: Dawn Moneyhan <dawnshungryeyes4u2c@yahoo.com>
To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 31 May 2013, 20:21
Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Algae/Larry

Dave, can you email me a copy of that photo only larger in size please? I suspect it is hair algae but it's really difficult to tell for sure what it is when the photo is so small.
Thanks!

Dawn

Dawn Moneyhan
Aquatics Specialist/Nutritionist
To learn more about me go to
http://www.helium.com/users/449334

--- On Fri, 5/31/13, david hall <bushrdchapel@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: david hall <bushrdchapel@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Algae/Larry
To: "tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com" <tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, May 31, 2013, 8:38 AM

Something in your email Dawn, caused me to think that what I though was Java Moss, is Hair Algae.

I have posted a pic in here http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tropicalfishclub/photos/album/1281329942/pic/466705796/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

Perhaps some kind person could tell me what it is. It is growing strongly.

Dave.

http://www.thehungersite.com

Click on the hunger site and help feed the hungry.

________________________________

From: Dawn Moneyhan <dawnshungryeyes4u2c@yahoo.com>

To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2013, 20:10

Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Algae/Larry

No I don't use CO2, I don't use plant fertilizers, no special substrates. I grow the java ferns in a 215 gallon tank, HO T5 lighting, minimal fish load (4 medium size angels, 3 botia striata, 4 juvenile bristlenose, and one very old gold barb that won't likely be around much longer. I dose that tank with Flourish Excel twice/wk because of hair algae issues I have in that and 1 other tank, still not sure why only those 2 tanks, but I was growing the java fern in there before I began dosing with the F.E. and it doesn't seem to have affected the growth rate of the plants. I have 2 species of wisteria, 3 species of crypts, java fern, flame moss, taiwan moss, water sprite, red ruben swords, and dwarf water lettuce growing in that tank and all are doing well. For substrate I use pea gravel in all of my tanks.

I love live plants in my tanks and have them in every tank, even the African cichlid tank. Plants grow well here as long as I accommodate their lighting needs. In one of my 65 gallon tanks with HO T5 lighting I have only naja grass, 1 large angel, 2 gold white clouds, and a bunch of rock work and I have to trim out the naja grass weekly just so the fish can swim through the entire tank. I have the same size tank, same lighting over the African cichlid tank and the naja grass grows well in there too in spite of the fish nibbling on it. Again, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tropicalfishclub/photos/album/1281329942/pic/466705796/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use • Send us Feedback

.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

__._,_.___

Reply via web post

Reply to sender

Reply to group

Start a New Topic

Messages in this topic (57)

Recent Activity:

New Members 2
New Photos 1

Visit Your Group

Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use • Send us Feedback

__,_._,___

[AquaticLife] Re: Question about fishy smell

Can you tell us what filter medias you are using and what water change schedule you have for this tank? How often are you doing water changes? How much water at a time? How often are you changing or cleaning filter medias?

Dawn

--- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, "Siva" <sub_mails@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I have 4 tanks, and the biggest is 6x2x2(180G/640L) capacity. I am unable to correlate, but now and then i get sort of fish smell.
>
> It is non-planted tank, with sand substrate, community tank having reasonably large fishes, like tinfoil, BGK, synodontis, archer, blue dolphin etc. Has some root-driftwood and some rocks and mud & plastic pipe for my BGK. Most of the tank inmates are 6in and above. Runs an EHEIM 2260 and EHEIM Professional 3e 2078.
>
> Strangely i do not get the same smell in other tanks, the other tanks have the normal water/mud smell. Any clues ? The remaining 3 tanks, one is barebottom and others are planted.
>
> Water parameters are normal, the tank has been around for 2 years or so, and reestablished 6 months back when i had to move into another apartment.
>
> Do let me know if you require any information.
>
> Thank you for your kind reply.
>
> Regards
> Siva
> Bangalore,India
>

__._,_.___

Reply via web post

Reply to sender

Reply to group

Start a New Topic

Messages in this topic (2)

Recent Activity:

New Members 3
New Photos 133

Visit Your Group

Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use • Send us Feedback

__,_._,___

[AquaticLife] Re: ICH ...thing to consider. no dormant stage in the lifecycle

John, you are correct about chlorine being a dangerous way to attempt to treat any fish. Chlorine also kills beneficial bacteria on contact. Put simply, chlorine is toxic and that is one major reason why we in the fish hobby teach the use of water conditioners to all... to remove/detoxify the chlorine found in many water supplies.
I read through that article at Wikipedia and was quite upset by the number of errors in their information. If you noticed, there was a tag/note in that article explaining that nobody claimed their place as author to that information and provided no references, thus that particular writing could at some point be removed if it is challenged. If I had the time to devote to it right now I would be contacting them at Wikipedia and challenging it myself.

This is one more example of not believing everything you read just because it's on the internet. For all we know that article was written by a child or someone who has no real knowledge or experience with fish or ich. The way that article is written I would have to suspect it is one of those because it shows a large lack of knowledge about the topic.

Dawn

--- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, SIMMONDS JOHN <simmonds.john@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Charles,
>
> I was interested to see Chlorine treatment mentioned as one of the
> options on the Wikipedia page for treating Koi & Goldfish-surely the
> poisonous effects of the Chlorine would make this treatment deadly or am I
> missing something?
>
> John*<o)))<*
>
>
> On 31 May 2013 03:48, Charles Harrison <charles@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Please reference:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthyophthirius_multifiliis
> >
> > "There is no dormant stage in the lifecycle. Ich does not lie in wait
> > for a weakened fish to infect. However, any facto . . . "
> >
> > There have been many serious investigations into the life cycle of
> > the Protozoa.
> >
> > Also PLEASE Note:
> >
> > " Heat treatment
> > Heat treatment can be highly effective, and it can be combined with
> > other treatments. However, it can only be used on fish that can
> > tolerate high water temperatures, and is unsuitable for cold water
> > fish like koi and goldfish, but even in those cases, a higher water
> > temperature will accelerate the life-cycle of the parasite, allowing
> > other treatments to take effect sooner."
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > There is very good information in this reference and the references
> > included.
> >
> > Charles Harrison
> >
> > >I don't agree with the fact that it is always present in your tank.
> > >In fact, I bet you I could prove it to you now by taking two of my
> > >perfectly fine tiger barbs and stressing both of them. One in a 10
> > >gallon never infected with ick and the other in the 10 gallon that I
> > >just lost two barbs to a few weeks ago. I can almost be 100% certain
> > >that neither will get ick. Neither. I would do it, too, if I had
> > >some barbs to spare but I don't and I'd rather not end up with dead
> > >fish. Maybe in the future I will.
> > >
> > >
> > >Anyway, your tank is considered free of ick after a few weeks of it
> > >sitting empty. Why? Because it cannot survive with a host. Well, I'm
> > >sure you are thinking what if it has a host? Then you are saying
> > >that my 55 gallon has a chance of becoming infected with ick because
> > >I have never had no fish in it since I had ick in it. Well, no
> > >matter how much I neglect that tank (Usually not too much but as I
> > >don't have test strips I can never be sure what the ammonia levels
> > >are) none of my fish have gotten ill. None. Want me to prove it? I'm
> > >sure I can get two more barbs and torture them both just to show you
> > >I'm right.(Just kidding) Luckily, I'm not that type of person so you
> > >don't have to worry about animal abuse from me. But isn't that how
> > >these things are found out? Perhaps I can go to my local walmart or
> > >meijer and get some of their disgusting fish. The ones infected with
> > >ick... They would have died anyway, and maybe I can even save
> > >them... Sorry, I'm just
> > > rambling on to myself. I'm concentrating on stocking my tank right
> > >now, so I'm definitely not going to start sacrificing fish in the
> > >name of science.
> > >
> > >
> > >I believe that the only way you can get ick is if it is introduced
> > >to your tank by infected fish or ornaments. That's all. But, like I
> > >sort of said earlier, I can only be ALMOST certain of this. Not
> > >completely, so please don't kill me if new research comes out that
> > >says it can hide in your tank for a long time, okay. :)
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

__._,_.___

Reply via web post

Reply to sender

Reply to group

Start a New Topic

Messages in this topic (2)

Recent Activity:

New Members 3
New Photos 133

Visit Your Group

Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use • Send us Feedback

__,_._,___

[AquaticLife] Re: HELP MY GOLDFISH ARE SICK AND DYING

There is nothing about methylene blue that is antiparasitic in nature. Methylene blue is a stain medication primarily meant to treat fungus problems and has some antibacterial properties as well. I would suspect that your success in treating ich using methylene blue is a coincidence and that either the fish were able to fight the parasite on their own via their immune systems or something else occurred to rid them of the parasite.
As for malachite green, yes, this can be an effective medication for some fish suffering fin rot symptoms, but it doesn't work for all fish or for all cases of fin rot. If the fin rot is fungal without the accompaniment of bacteria problems at the same time, then the dye in malachite green will often cure fungal problems. IF the fin rot is also accompanied by a bacterial issue, then the bacteria will continue to eat away at the tissue of the fish and the fungus will return in it's wake to feed on the dead tissue left behind by the bacteria. Malachite green is quite harsh on a fish's system and not all fish can handle it.

Please be careful when suggesting medications to others or when using them yourself. If used improperly many medications can make matters worse or even kill the fish. It is important to understand the medication and it's ingredients and what it does, how it works, etc. before attempting to use it.

Dawn

--- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, "cliffl" <cliff.lambton@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Michelle,
> I have always used a dye called methylene blue to treat white spot, it turns the water deep blue and gets rid of the ich, very good for treating any protozoan parasites, can buy it in pet shops or at a vets, another way to cure and stop white spot is keep the temperature at 89°, i also use malachite green for fin rot, neither harm the fish, but can stain plants and filter, i have always used them in a hospital tank with just some aeration. Cliff.
>

__._,_.___

Reply via web post

Reply to sender

Reply to group

Start a New Topic

Messages in this topic (25)

Recent Activity:

New Members 3
New Photos 133

Visit Your Group

Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use • Send us Feedback

__,_._,___