Saturday, August 21, 2010

Re: [tropical fish club] Re: H2O2 use

 

Thanks Ray,
Lots of food for thought here.
We spent the day at a water park for Scouts so I'm so brain dead I can't hardly
keep my eyes open. I'll look at this again in the am and maybe it will stick.

On an odd note on the way home we must have seen thousands (I may even be
understating the amount we got to see) of dragon flys. I see them often but
never ever like this. It was flocks of them all over mile after mile after
mile. The rivers were close but not that close. The birds were going nuts and
I bet the fish in the rivers were very happy too.

Donna

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From: Ray <sevenspringss@wmconnect.com>
: H2O2 use

Donna, I don't see any reason why you can't remove the Anacharis to a bucket
for treatment. As the plant doesn't have as near an extent of roots as stem
plants, and takes in much of its nutrients through its "leaves," rather than
most of the food being taken up through the roots, your disturbing it will only
temporarily disrupt its anchorage. You may probably even have a good deal of it
floating right now, anyhow.

As this is a more delicate plant in terms of impurities in its environment, I
would be cautious when treating it with anything. As some members may not have
noticed the Subject Line, I should probably repeat that you're intending to use
Hydrogen Peroxide (at 3% solution, I would determine). Normally, when dosing a
tank with this (which I know is not your plan), one would use about 1 ounce (2
Tablespoons) of H2O2 per 10 gallons, which is often effective without redosing,
and also safe for the fish.

You can use this same proportion in a 5 gallon bucket, overnight as a bath, at 1
Tablespoon per 5 gallons; some hobbyists use 2 ounces (4 Tablespoons) per 10
gallons -- or 1 ounce (2 Tablespoons per 5 gallons) -- but without fish,
presumedly with thougher leaved plants. When dosing Anacharis with anything,
including H2O2, I'd suggest sampling the results first and don't be in a hurry
to do the whole job at the moment. Try a bit of Anacharis first, to see how it
reacts o the peroxide, and also to see how well the amount of peroxide affects
the Black Brush Algae.

Other shorter duration dips, but at higher strength dosages may be used -- but
again, I'd do so with Anacharis only after a trial. A 30 minute dip using 4
ounces (8 Tablespoons) of H2O2 can be used -- or a 30 second dip using a 5-to-1
ratio of water to H2O2 can also be used. This would be like using 20 ounces (2
1/2 cups) of water to 4 ounces (1/2 cup) of H2O2. Both of these latter methods
should definitely be done only on a sampling of Anacharis first.

Quite often, Flourish Excel is used against Black Brush Algae very effectively,
as a bath at double the normal dose (or at a 5-1 ratio for 30 seconds), BUT
Excel will also melt some more tender plants -- INCLUDING Valisneria and
Anacharis. As it is reported that Peroxide will kill Valisneria, you can see
why you need to be cautious with H2O2, with Anacharis -- even though I'm not
aware of any reports indicating Anacharis would be similarly adversly sffected
by Peroxide..

You may instead want to use chlorine bleach as a quick dip to treat the
Anacharis. In this case, you'd use a 19-to-1 ratio of water to bleach (regular
strength bleach, not "Ultra"); that is, 19 (or 20) ounces of water to 1 ounce of
bleach.. For delicate plants, you dip them in this solution for between 2 and 3
minutes. Tougher, wide leaved plants, for 4 to 5 minutes, AFTER WHICH, the
plants should immediately be immersed in a bucket of water containing a
dechlorinator. A Potassium Permangante dip, for 20 minutes, can also be used as
an algaecide. With any method you use, more caution needs to be exercised with
Anacharis. Ray

--- In tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com, Donna King <donnalynneking@...> wrote:
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> Hi all,
> Glub's (goldfish) 75 is doing well but his anacharis while still doing well is

> getting lots of black brush algae. I really don't want to treat in the tank.
> Can I remove these plant to treat them in a bucket, give them a rinse and then

> place them back in his tank? How much would I use to 5 gallons of water? I
> realize its going to come back but I'd like to control whats on the plants
> anyway.
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> Donna
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