Never realized that dragonflies could occur in such large numbers. While they hang around ponds here in the East, they are never at all abundant. I've never heard of them being in the thousands. Even have a few of them flying around my pond at times. I guess the pond has developed into a natural environment. While they're good to see as part of nature, I'm also thinking that there may be dragonfly larvae in my pond, although I do have a good number of fry in there right now that are far too big to fall prey to them if they are there.
I used to be afraid of them when I was a kid, as some people also referred to them as "Darning Needles." Judging from the size of them, I sure didn't want to get stung by them, so would avoid them at all cost < g >. Ray
--- In tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com, Donna King <donnalynneking@...> wrote:
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> Thanks Ray,
> Lots of food for thought here.
> We spent the day at a water park for Scouts so I'm so brain dead I can't hardly
> keep my eyes open. I'll look at this again in the am and maybe it will stick.
>
> On an odd note on the way home we must have seen thousands (I may even be
> understating the amount we got to see) of dragon flys. I see them often but
> never ever like this. It was flocks of them all over mile after mile after
> mile. The rivers were close but not that close. The birds were going nuts and
> I bet the fish in the rivers were very happy too.
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> Donna
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> From: Ray <sevenspringss@...>
> : H2O2 use
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> Donna, I don't see any reason why you can't remove the Anacharis to a bucket
> for treatment. As the plant doesn't have as near an extent of roots as stem
> plants, and takes in much of its nutrients through its "leaves," rather than
> most of the food being taken up through the roots, your disturbing it will only
> temporarily disrupt its anchorage. You may probably even have a good deal of it
> floating right now, anyhow.
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> As this is a more delicate plant in terms of impurities in its environment, I
> would be cautious when treating it with anything. As some members may not have
> noticed the Subject Line, I should probably repeat that you're intending to use
> Hydrogen Peroxide (at 3% solution, I would determine). Normally, when dosing a
> tank with this (which I know is not your plan), one would use about 1 ounce (2
> Tablespoons) of H2O2 per 10 gallons, which is often effective without redosing,
> and also safe for the fish.
>
> You can use this same proportion in a 5 gallon bucket, overnight as a bath, at 1
> Tablespoon per 5 gallons; some hobbyists use 2 ounces (4 Tablespoons) per 10
> gallons -- or 1 ounce (2 Tablespoons per 5 gallons) -- but without fish,
> presumedly with thougher leaved plants. When dosing Anacharis with anything,
> including H2O2, I'd suggest sampling the results first and don't be in a hurry
> to do the whole job at the moment. Try a bit of Anacharis first, to see how it
> reacts o the peroxide, and also to see how well the amount of peroxide affects
> the Black Brush Algae.
>
> Other shorter duration dips, but at higher strength dosages may be used -- but
> again, I'd do so with Anacharis only after a trial. A 30 minute dip using 4
> ounces (8 Tablespoons) of H2O2 can be used -- or a 30 second dip using a 5-to-1
> ratio of water to H2O2 can also be used. This would be like using 20 ounces (2
> 1/2 cups) of water to 4 ounces (1/2 cup) of H2O2. Both of these latter methods
> should definitely be done only on a sampling of Anacharis first.
>
>
> Quite often, Flourish Excel is used against Black Brush Algae very effectively,
> as a bath at double the normal dose (or at a 5-1 ratio for 30 seconds), BUT
> Excel will also melt some more tender plants -- INCLUDING Valisneria and
> Anacharis. As it is reported that Peroxide will kill Valisneria, you can see
> why you need to be cautious with H2O2, with Anacharis -- even though I'm not
> aware of any reports indicating Anacharis would be similarly adversly sffected
> by Peroxide..
>
> You may instead want to use chlorine bleach as a quick dip to treat the
> Anacharis. In this case, you'd use a 19-to-1 ratio of water to bleach (regular
> strength bleach, not "Ultra"); that is, 19 (or 20) ounces of water to 1 ounce of
> bleach.. For delicate plants, you dip them in this solution for between 2 and 3
> minutes. Tougher, wide leaved plants, for 4 to 5 minutes, AFTER WHICH, the
> plants should immediately be immersed in a bucket of water containing a
> dechlorinator. A Potassium Permangante dip, for 20 minutes, can also be used as
> an algaecide. With any method you use, more caution needs to be exercised with
> Anacharis. Ray
>
> --- In tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com, Donna King <donnalynneking@> wrote:
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> >
> > Hi all,
> > Glub's (goldfish) 75 is doing well but his anacharis while still doing well is
>
> > getting lots of black brush algae. I really don't want to treat in the tank.
> > Can I remove these plant to treat them in a bucket, give them a rinse and then
>
> > place them back in his tank? How much would I use to 5 gallons of water? I
> > realize its going to come back but I'd like to control whats on the plants
> > anyway.
> >
> > Donna
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