Prune it...
Giancarlo
--- In tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com, Donna King <donnalynneking@...> wrote:
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> Any thoughts then?
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> Donna
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> From: tuvix72 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> Re: H2O2 use
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> Now that I think about it... anacharis doesn't take to excel or metricide too
> well either...
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> Giancarlo
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> --- In tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com, tuvix72 <no_reply@> wrote:
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> > The only reason to prefer an in-tank treatment with H2O2 is due to the roots
> >remaining protected and out of the oxidization threat. This has proven to be a
> >good backup when eccessive H2O2 concentrations have been used and the plant has
> >been damaged, luckily it quickly comes back from the root structure. If you dose
> >out of tank, do a quick 1 minute dip holding the roots out of the bucket.
> >
> > If you have read my article on using H2O2, you can do the same "Spot treatment"
> >using Flourish Excel, or even spray Excel on the BBA while the plant is out of
> >the water... it only takes a couple spot treatments to put BBA in it's place.
> >With filters turned off, spot treatment is quite easy and safe in the tank
> >itself, be it using H2O2, Metricide or Excel. The important thing is to use less
> >of either product so that once the filter is turned back on it dilutes enough
> >and remains under the concentration of what would otherwise be a "whole tank"
> >treatment.
> >
> > While I have pulled plants out in the past, I actually prefer not to in most
> >cases. Uprooting a plant will slow down it's growth rate as it needs to re-root,
> >this will often amplify the cause of the algae in the first place. Never forget
> >that as mysterious as algae growth Vs plant growth may still be, we do know that
> >algae growth is negatively impacted by the growth rate of complex plant species.
> >This is why you may hear some of the plant experts advice people to concentrate
> >on growing the plants rather than killing the algae... there's a strong
> >relationship between the two.
> >
> > With all that said... Anacharis being a fast growing stem plant, you can only
> >burn the effected algae off, leaving a mess of damaged leaves behind... My
> >advice is to heavily prune the plant of it's effected areas. Hopefully the
> >growing tips are in health and clean, if so, top the plant and throw out the
> >bottom part and simply replant the tips as you would new stems. Trimming is
> >often the best way to remove damaged or algae infected areas of a plant.
> >Anacharis is delicate and I am not certain how it will take H2O2 to be honest...
> >if you're going to dip them out of the tank as planned, cut the stems close to
> >the base and leave the root structure and about an inch of stem above the
> >substrate. A nice bush will usually result from such a pruning and you can still
> >treat and replant the stems you are trying to salvage.
> >
> > Let us know how you make out
> > Giancarlo Podio
> >
> > --- In tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <sevenspringss@> wrote:
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> > > Donna, I don't see any reason why you can't remove the Anacharis to a bucket
> >for treatment. As the plant doesn't have as near an extent of roots as stem
> >plants, and takes in much of its nutrients through its "leaves," rather than
> >most of the food being taken up through the roots, your disturbing it will only
> >temporarily disrupt its anchorage. You may probably even have a good deal of it
> >floating right now, anyhow.
> >
> > >
> > > As this is a more delicate plant in terms of impurities in its environment, I
> >would be cautious when treating it with anything. As some members may not have
> >noticed the Subject Line, I should probably repeat that you're intending to use
> >Hydrogen Peroxide (at 3% solution, I would determine). Normally, when dosing a
> >tank with this (which I know is not your plan), one would use about 1 ounce (2
> >Tablespoons) of H2O2 per 10 gallons, which is often effective without redosing,
> >and also safe for the fish.
> > >
> > > You can use this same proportion in a 5 gallon bucket, overnight as a bath,
> >at 1 Tablespoon per 5 gallons; some hobbyists use 2 ounces (4 Tablespoons) per
> >10 gallons -- or 1 ounce (2 Tablespoons per 5 gallons) -- but without fish,
> >presumedly with thougher leaved plants. When dosing Anacharis with anything,
> >including H2O2, I'd suggest sampling the results first and don't be in a hurry
> >to do the whole job at the moment. Try a bit of Anacharis first, to see how it
> >reacts o the peroxide, and also to see how well the amount of peroxide affects
> >the Black Brush Algae.
> > >
> > > Other shorter duration dips, but at higher strength dosages may be used --
> >but again, I'd do so with Anacharis only after a trial. A 30 minute dip using 4
> >ounces (8 Tablespoons) of H2O2 can be used -- or a 30 second dip using a 5-to-1
> >ratio of water to H2O2 can also be used. This would be like using 20 ounces (2
> >1/2 cups) of water to 4 ounces (1/2 cup) of H2O2. Both of these latter methods
> >should definitely be done only on a sampling of Anacharis first.
> >
> > >
> > > Quite often, Flourish Excel is used against Black Brush Algae very
> >effectively, as a bath at double the normal dose (or at a 5-1 ratio for 30
> >seconds), BUT Excel will also melt some more tender plants -- INCLUDING
> >Valisneria and Anacharis. As it is reported that Peroxide will kill Valisneria,
> >you can see why you need to be cautious with H2O2, with Anacharis -- even though
> >I'm not aware of any reports indicating Anacharis would be similarly adversly
> >sffected by Peroxide..
> > >
> > > You may instead want to use chlorine bleach as a quick dip to treat the
> >Anacharis. In this case, you'd use a 19-to-1 ratio of water to bleach (regular
> >strength bleach, not "Ultra"); that is, 19 (or 20) ounces of water to 1 ounce of
> >bleach.. For delicate plants, you dip them in this solution for between 2 and 3
> >minutes. Tougher, wide leaved plants, for 4 to 5 minutes, AFTER WHICH, the
> >plants should immediately be immersed in a bucket of water containing a
> >dechlorinator. A Potassium Permangante dip, for 20 minutes, can also be used as
> >an algaecide. With any method you use, more caution needs to be exercised with
> >Anacharis. Ray
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com, Donna King <donnalynneking@> wrote:
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> > > > Hi all,
> > > > Glub's (goldfish) 75 is doing well but his anacharis while still doing well
> >is
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> > > > getting lots of black brush algae. I really don't want to treat in the
> >tank.
> >
> > > > Can I remove these plant to treat them in a bucket, give them a rinse and
> >then
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> > > > place them back in his tank? How much would I use to 5 gallons of water? I
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> > > > realize its going to come back but I'd like to control whats on the plants
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> > > > anyway.
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> > > > Donna
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