You are a proud mother. So am I.lol.
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From: deborahgd14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 7:32:09 AM
Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] More babies...
Hi All: I have to agreed with Dawn, spawning angels are so neat. But I never
saw them move a plant to get their spawning grounds ready. It is something I
will never forget. The parents moving all the fry to one side of the tank and
moving their fins with signals for them; showing them the algae on the tank and
showing them how to eat it. Nature at it's best. When I raised them, I ended
up buying more and more tanks as they have to be separated so you don't stunt
their growth and bend their fins. Truly remarkable and glad I had that
experience. good luck with the platy fry. Seems we all started that way with
platy and guppy fry. Love it!! Deborah
--- In tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com, Dawn Moneyhan <dawnshungryeyes4u2c@...>
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> Erika,
> I have been breeding fish for the past 20 yrs. Between my husband and myself,
>there is very little on the retail market that we have not either kept and
>raised or spawned (or both).
> Platys, mollies, swordtails, guppies... all fish I have spawned in excess over
>the years to help supply the local pet stores with healthy fish. I have bred
>for color, fin style, size, and even to control sex of the fry. (yes, this can
>be done via temp regulation)
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> The first fish I ever spawned were swordtails, and like you, I was so excited
>when I found my first few fry. I quickly went from a single 10 gallon tank to
>20 tanks, and then moved on to spawning mollies to add to my mix. My last
>spawning of mollies, platys, and swordtails was only a couple of yrs ago. I
>stopped because the market for them locally went down when the economy bottomed
>out. I ended up stuck with a 90 gallon overcrowded with 300 fry and the pet
>store suddenly telling me they didn't have space for them. I was forced to
>separate my pairs and be content to keep them as "pets" instead of breeders, to
>avoid their rapid spawning rates, and to outsource the fry to other pet stores
>and via internet auctions.
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> I find that after a few yrs I grow bored with spawning the same species all the
>time, so I try to limit myself and am always searching for something new.Â
>Angels were something I never had the space to spawn in the past. Now that I
>have it and ended up with mated pairs purely by accident, I decided to let them
>do their thing. I raised my parent fish from dime size, they are now 2 yrs old
>and approaching full grown. The angels have spawned every 3 wks like clockwork
>for about a yr now, so this will be the first time they got it right. I didn't
>do anything special, they are in a community tank with a red tail shark, gold
>and cherry barbs, a rubber pleco, and the last of my very old red & blue
>columbian tetras. (There is much to be said about not over stocking a tank in
>these situations, my tanks are never over stocked.)Â My nitrate levels never go
>above 10 in any of my tanks. pH is checked regularly and always stable unless
>I purposely alter
> it to induce spawning in some species. Â Â
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> The only thing I can offer to anyone struggling with spawning their fish is to
>maintain the tank as if it were a breeding tank... keep it clean, keep it
>stable, and keep it extremely well decorated... but also, watch the fish. The
>fish often tell us themselves what they need, we just have to learn to
>understand their language. My angels had issues with other fish invading their
>spawning spots, using decor to sneak in and ambush the eggs or fry. This time
>around my parent fish redecorated the tank on their own, all I had to do was
>leave it alone. They uprooted all of the live plants and moved all of the silk
>plants to the center of the tank in a pile, creating a border for the other
>fish. Because their end of the tank is bare now, its impossible for the other
>fish to get into this territory without an aggressive attack by the parent
>fish. So, sometimes the best thing to do is to let the fish figure it out
>their way and just not to interfere.Â
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> Your 5 fry will quickly multiply, which is the other "trick" to successful
>spawning and raising of any fish. Being prepared for what they will give you
>in way of fry, and having the space for them is always important. Livebearer
>fry are mature enough to spawn by the age of about 12 - 16 wks. (Sometimes
>even sooner)Â Tracking the count of males vs females and knowing when to
>separate them will help to keep things manageable, stable, and healthy.Â
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> Congrats on your fry, and with the angels... keep trying. Watch the fish
>closely if/when they begin spawning. That is the only way to determine what is
>going wrong. Angels are not as easy as livebearers, and they need time to
>learn to be good parents. Some take longer than others. Ray is a good person
>to consult if you are attempting to spawn angels. And... the other requirement
>is... patience.Â
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>
> Have a great day.
> Dawn
>
> Dawn Moneyhan
> Aquatics Specialist/Nutritionist
> To learn more about me go to
> http://www.helium.com/users/449334
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 3/16/11, erika roy <effervescentbirdsong@...> wrote:
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> From: erika roy <effervescentbirdsong@...>
> Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] More babies...
> To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 1:56 PM
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> Wow, and I thought my five Platy fry was something. Every time I had
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> they died. My tank isn't fit enough for them. You are a master of fish keeping
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> My five babies are getting big. The Triplets look like Platy's now and are
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> coming up to the top to eat with the much bigger mom and dad.
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> The Twins are the names I have given the other two fry. I consider them to be
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> fraternal twins because, they are different sizes.
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> Mom is a large Ocean Dusk Platy and dad is a regular Dark Orange Platy. The
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> babies colour scheme is from bright orange to pale peach. They are still
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