I agree with everything Ray had to say but want to add that a jack dempsey at 60 degrees is very susceptible to ich, among other things. Be sure to raise the temp slowly, only a degree or 2 each day so the fish have a chance to adjust. If you go from 60 to mid 80's in a matter of a couple of days you can easily kill the fish.
I'm also wondering how often you do gravel vacs in this tank?
Dawn
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--- On Tue, 3/1/11, Lori <parknut@telus.net> wrote:
From: Lori <parknut@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] White spots
To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 9:12 PM
sorry ray the temp is 60 the amonia is safe so i have done a water change
and cleaned up a bit to see if it will help i turned up the heat a bit too
as it seems a bit cold
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray" <sevenspringss@wmconnect.com>
To: <tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 4:41 Parknut
Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] White spots
> Lori,
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> I notice your saying that your Nitrate is 20, and that you specifically
> indicate that it's safe -- which it is, even though this organic waste
> product is relatively harmless until it reaches much higher proportions.
> A Nitrate level twice your amount would still be safe, but it's good to
> see yours is at 20.
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> You do indicate, however, that your Nitrite is between 0.5 and 1.0 (which
> we know is not at all safe). What makes you think that your Nitrite level
> at the reading you gave us is perfectly adequate enough to only do monthly
> PWC's (partial water changes)? As a part of general maintenance, partial
> water changes should be done WEEKLY -- ESPECIALLY when your Nitrite is
> this high. Nitrite is the most toxic organic waste product of them all --
> which, BTW, you have not given us your Ammonia reading.
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> High Nitrite will not cause Ick, but will stress the fish, perhaps enough
> to lower its immune system to make the fish more susceptible to such
> diseases.
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> From your agreement with Dawn's decription of Ick as appearing similar to
> salt spinkled on the fish's fins, it does seem as though your fish has
> somehow contracted this disease. Are you sure your thermometer is not
> faulty when you gave us a reading of 76 o ?
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> For starters, you need to do some larger water changes to get your Nitrite
> level down. Secondly, you need to figure out why you Nitrite is so high
> in the first place so that the possibility of it going back up will be
> eliminated, It sounds like your tank is either in a mini-cycle, or has
> not yet finished its cycle if it's a newly set up tank -- in which case,
> you should yet have fish in it until the cycle is completed.
>
> For now, do some partial water changes to get your Nitrite level down.
> Then, slowly raise the temperature to 86 o F, and add 1 Tablespoon of salt
> for every 5 gallons. Keep the temperature there until a minimum of two
> days after you see no more signs of Ick, then slowly bring the temperature
> down. Increase the aeration during this period, if at all possible. You
> may need to make PWC's during this period, which can take up to about 10
> days. You'll need to heat this new water to 86 o also, before adding it
> to the tank. Give us an Ammonia reading as soon as you can.
>
> Ray
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> --- In tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com, "Lori" <parknut@...> wrote:
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>> Sorry Dawn..I will get the hang of this..lol
>> Tank- 55 gallon
>> Set up- over a year
>> water changes- every month 25-30%
>> Filter aquaclear 70
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>> Nitrate 20-safe
>> nitritebtween .5-1.0
>> hardness 300
>> clorine 0
>> alkalinity 300 high
>> ph 7.8
>> I feed her 3 crickets in the morning, maybe 4 in the afternoon and 4-5 in
>> the evening
>> i sometimes feed her a smaill amount of crisps as well (10)
>> there is a pleco in the tank with her that is maybe 3 inchs if that
>> i feed it one waffer broken in half once a day if that.
>> water temp 76
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dawn Moneyhan" <dawnshungryeyes4u2c@...>
>> To: <tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 11:03 Parknut
>> Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] White spots
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>> Lori,
>> Can you tell us more about the tank she lives in? What size? How long its
>> been set up? How often you're doing water changes? How much each time?
>> What
>> kind of filter(s) are you running (make/model)? Water parameters for
>> ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, pH? How often do you feed her? How much at a
>> time? Water temp?
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>> The more you can tell us about her (how big is she? tank mates? if so,
>> what
>> and how many of each?) and her tank the faster we can help you.
>>
>> Dawn
>>
>>
>> Dawn Moneyhan
>> Aquatics Specialist/Nutritionist
>> To learn more about me go to
>> http://www.helium.com/users/449334
>>
>>
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>> --- On Mon, 2/28/11, Lori <parknut@...> wrote:
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>> From: Lori <parknut@...>
>> Subject: [tropical fish club] White spots
>> To: Undisclosed-Recipient@...
>> Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 8:21 PM
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>> I have noticed tiny white spots on the pectoral fin of my jack dempsey
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>> she seems to look healthy
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>> i also notice in the morning , when i turn her light on
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>> their are tiny white worms on the glass they do move you can slightly
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>> see them with the naked eye,about a hr later their gone.
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>> I only feed her crickets mostly and cichlid crisps
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>> she will not eat anything else other than that her diet consists of
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>> Thank you for listening
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