Sunday, July 31, 2011

Re: [tropical fish club] ? About Gourami frys ( Help) :)

 

Yes, if all you have left in the tank is the fry and the plants then an airstone should be fine for several weeks.

They do start out tiny. If they get plenty to eat they grow pretty fast, but it still seems to take forever the first time you raise them (impatience?).

Daphnia are good for them to eat.

I think you're going to be a great fishy mom! :)

--- In tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com, Diana Snyder <dianasnyder249@...> wrote:
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> Holy cow...it's alot to remember.I just order brain shrimp, and Micor worms.They are some live daphina.hope that how you spell it in the tank.I also do happen to have clean( lol) green water outside for plants.But it not real green yet.My husband thought he'd clean my bucket last week.:( I also do happen to have ten.But looking for 20 gal.Also thing my filter was still to stronge so for a week maybe just a air stone,will that be alright ?
> Right right the frys are so tiny.Will they ever grow ?
> Thank for all the info.Wow.:) Diana
> Going to go do dirt 55 now.Play in mud.yuck !
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> From: haecklers <haecklers@...>
> To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] ? About Gourami frys ( Help) :)
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> Congratulations!
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> My male tends the nest for a week - retrieving eggs then fry that fall out and guarding the fry once they are free-swimming. After 7 days the fry all disappear. I don't remove the mother because I've got enough fry but I'm not sure if she eats them (he's a real softie to her) or if they both do or what. Maybe they just starve by then. But the fry only NEED their father until they are free-swimming.
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> They are really tiny when they hatch so they need really small food at first - I used vinegar eels and infusoria I have from a culture of greenwater. You can maybe find some greenwater outdoors for them if you look in things that have had standing water for awhile, but don't use anything that smells too foul.
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> After about a week they can take microworms. If you don't have these you can use a tiny piece of yolk from a boiled egg - crumble it in some water and use an eyedropper to feed the fry a small amount. But be prepared for some very careful water changes because whatever they don't eat can rot and foul the water (same for fry foods in general). Putting in some snails will help a lot to clean up uneaten food. A lot of fry won't eat First Bites or other packaged fry food - they want stuff that moves, but slowly enough that they can catch it.
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> Gourami fry tend to stay near the top looking for food so adding duckweed or something floating that can be a home for lots of infusoria will help them a lot.
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> You don't need to feed them until they're free-swimming (and I don't mean falling down then spiraling back up - actual swimming.) If the tank is planted there may already be infusoria in there. You've got time to order microworms from aquabid if you do it soon, or you could try brine shrimp eggs to hatch (lots of plans on the internet to make a hatchery) or try decapsulated brine shrimp eggs (some of my fry refused them and didn't grow as fast as a result).
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> Most of my gourami fry that I removed to raise lived - and I wound up with a LOT. After my pair spawned they did it again every 10 days or so. In fact, they've got a nest full right now. And the spawns get bigger with time until you have hundreds of fry. So if this one doesn't survive, you'll get plenty of chances to try again.
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> You might want to keep an eye out for yard sales to pick up a 10- or 20- gallon tank to raise them in, pet stores around here don't want them until they're 1.5 - 2 inches long. If you go that route, get a sponge filter for it, they work great. You have to order sponge filters online but they're pretty cheap, and you have to buy an air pump separately, and some air tubing. Still, it adds up to less than most other filters.
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> Mine are big now and I'm feeding them Golden Pearls and Omega One veggie wafers. Excellent food grows excellent fish. Adult gouramis may be shy but my babies beg and wag their little tails whenever they see me, even tho their bellies are already bulging!
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> Enjoy, it's fun!
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> --- In tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com, Diana Snyder <dianasnyder249@> wrote:
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> > Gouramis ~Hi ya'll ,Fri nite my two feamles lay eggs.Lucky because I'm redoing my 55.I had them in a planted 5 gal .Just the 3 of them.Females are now out .Males taking care of them.I plan on taking him today.But really don't want too.He's doing bang up job taking care of frys babyies that hatch somtime yesterday or last nite.And have fry food.Cover the hell out of the intake filter.What elas can I do.This is all new to me.Help !!!! :O)I understand that the male is taking out after 3 days ?Why, will he eat them ? Diana
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> > From: crellin_j_e <jcrellin0661@>
> > To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 4:56 AM
> > Subject: [tropical fish club] Re: Jewel Cichlid Fry help please
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> > thanks, unfortunately, woke up this morning and they are all gone.
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> > I am sure they will have more.
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> > --- In tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <sevenspringss@> wrote:
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> > > John,
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> > > The answer to your question depends on how many fry you'd like to save -- just as with any other fry hatched, or given birth by livebearers. Usually, no matter the hiding places, when fry are left in a community tank, not many survive. After all, your other Cichlids will have up to 6 or 8 weeks to find these fry before the fry get too big for them to swallow. Odds are not very good at having any survivors although a very few often make it.
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> > > Once the fry become free-swimming -- which (if they hatched 3 days ago) should be either later today or tomorrow morning, it will be impossible for the parents to successfully defend their entire brood as there will always be stragglers and wanderers, not to mention the other fish will be relentless in trying to get to them.
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> > > If you're looking to save most of them, remove them to their own rearing tank (without the parents). Start feeding them newly hatched brine shrimp as soon as they're all free-swimming, even if you have to give them frozen BBS until you get a live BBS hatch.
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> > > --- In tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com, "crellin_j_e" <jcrellin0661@> wrote:
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> > > > My Jewel Cichlids just had fry. I am new to this. they are in a 75 gallon tank with lots of hiding space and 15 total cichlids in the tank. They are defending the fry quite well right now.
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> > > > anyone suggest what i should do now? should I try to remove the fry and raise them in a separate tank? i figure them to have been hatched 3 days ago.
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> > > > thanks for any help
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> > > > John C
> > > > Pittsburgh, PA
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