Hi Ray, I'm just sitting here waiting for the new stove to arrive... should be here in the next few hrs. Thank you for your concern, and yes, its a good thing it happened when me and my husband were both home. I'm not sure I would have known what breaker to turn off had I been here alone as I usually am when I start making dinner. Either God was looking out for me or I just had some good luck... either way, I'm grateful.
I'm also glad that the worst of the hurricane passed you by. I see on news the pictures and video of the areas worst hit, hear about the people who died... its so sad, so tragic. Sorry for the loss of your fish, but thankfully it was only the one. The last time I had a storm issue with my tanks we lost power for 10 days and I lost an entire 120 gallon reef tank. Thousands of $'s worth of animals lost, broke my heart.
Lets hope that everything gets back to normal for all of us very soon, I think we've all earned it!
Have a better day today....
Dawn
Dawn Moneyhan
Aquatics Specialist/Nutritionist
To learn more about me go to
http://www.helium.com/users/449334
--- On Tue, 8/30/11, Ray <sevenspringss@wmconnect.com> wrote:
From: Ray <sevenspringss@wmconnect.com>
Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Fw: [FroggyFriends] For your reading enjoyment!
To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 12:27 PM
Hi Dawn,
I'm so, so sorry to hear about your almost having your house burned down by that malfunctioning stove you had. Just so fortunate that you were home at the time, and that you had the warning that it was overheating. I see you found a replacement which won't arrive until tomorrow, but things could have been a lot worse if there was no one there when this issue came about. I'm just glad that no one was hurt either, as could have happened if this stove overheated like that during the night. Let's hope that things get back to normal for all of us soon.
Ray
--- In tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com, Dawn Moneyhan <dawnshungryeyes4u2c@...> wrote:
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> Lynne,
> I didn't forget you, sorry I haven't been here much the past few days. We had a major issue here, almost had my house burned down when my oven malfunctioned. I've been busy trying to find a new one/replace it.Â
> I see Ray has addressed the KH & GH info for you. I haven't had time to read it all yet, but I trust he was thorough. :-) (Thanks Ray!)
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> I will get to the info for the set up for 1 ACF as soon as I can. Sorry for the delay, but I've had very minimal pc time, hopefully things get back to normal really soon.
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> Dawn
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> Dawn Moneyhan
> Aquatics Specialist/Nutritionist
> To learn more about me go to
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> --- On Sun, 8/28/11, konservatorietdance@... <konservatorietdance@...> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Fw: [FroggyFriends] For your reading enjoyment!
> To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: "Konservatoriet.2@..." <Konservatoriet.2@...>
> Date: Sunday, August 28, 2011, 6:58 AM
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> This will be an enormous help ~ not only to me, but to the "frog-people" who
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> The bag I have of "Coral Sand" is labeled such, but it's physically more like
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> Sent: Sat, August 27, 2011 10:05:48 PM
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> Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Fw: [FroggyFriends] For your reading
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> I'm getting back to your question on -- How to raise the KH and GH without
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> using bicarbonates (sodium bicarbonate) to increase your KH. Getting to
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> bicarbonates first though, and without going too heavy into chemistry, you need
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> Bicarbonate -- which nobody ever calls it) has a chemical symbol of NaHCO3. In
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> Soda as it may cause pH bounce -- and may also precipitate as a fine white
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> fish and probably not for frogs either. I believe Alyce is experiencing
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> Sulfate that contains such a hardening mineral -- like Magnesium. To increase
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> the GH without increasing the pH, just add Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom salts)
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> You do realize by now, that your Betta does not need hard water though,
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