--- On Mon, 7/16/12, harry perry <harryfisherman@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: harry perry <harryfisherman@yahoo.com>
Subject: John.........Re: [AquaticLife] about not gravel cleaning the tank
To: "AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com" <AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 7:41 PM
I disagree. Two of my tanks have been running for years. They are well planted and I don't have any problems. I never vacuum my gravel. My thirty gallon had been running for months without a filter. I never use air stones. Folks with natural planted tanks keep their system running for years with out the need to vacuum the gravel.
Would you have a reference website we could go to for the results of scientific studies backing up the information you are giving to the group.
Also, the cycle already starts out in the open. In the filter,the water column and the gravel and where ever else the Nitrobacter bacteria resides.
Folks here are starting new tanks. Spending their hard earned money on something they enjoy. They need information backed up by scientific fact.
http://faq.thekrib.com/begin-cycling.html
Harry
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From: SIMMONDS JOHN <simmonds.john@ntlworld.com>
To: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AquaticLife] about not gravel cleaning the tank
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Hi Nora,
I think depending on many factors there are several *possible* outcomes
if you never vacuum your gravel. One is the eco system will collapse & kill
everything in the tank & the other is that the mulch on the bottom could
cause 'passive filtration' to take place ie the cycle will start right out
in the open rather than in the confines of the filter. Neither is desirable
really so I would recommend vacuuming.
John*<o)))<
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On 16 July 2012 14:55, nonstopmom888 <ehebens@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>
>
> Hi again,
>
> what I would be curious to know if possible:
>
> If the gravel is not "vacuum cleaned":
> are there any studies about what happens if the gravel is left alone and
> only the water is changed?
>
> I understand the recommendation is to do it for various reason. But is
> there any certainty about what happens if it is not done?
>
> How long does it usually take for fish food to decompose?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Nora
>
>
>
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