Fish: Re: [tropical fish club] Re: Planted tank ?'s

Hi Bill.

Nice job on ALL of the video's. I especially like my ride around
the rooms on that house train. The Rams of course, were just fantastic. They are an old favorite of mine and I tried them again a year ago but I had no luck and lost all of them, maybe another time.

Great job,

another bill in pa

--- On Fri, 8/31/12, Bill Davies <wedavies@ptd.net> wrote:

> From: Bill Davies <wedavies@ptd.net>
> Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Re: Planted tank ?'s
> To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 1:22 PM
>
> You Tube: Celt4400 for some of my stuff. There
> is some other stuff
> there too but you don't have to look at. Where would
> you like me to
> post the pictures?
> Bill
>
> On 31-Aug-12 08:35, Donna King wrote:
> >
> > I agree we all love photo's!
> >
> > Donna
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Cari <cahyman@yahoo.com
> <mailto:cahyman%40yahoo.com>>
> > >Re: Planted tank ?'s
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Sure, please post pics!!
> > >
> > >Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >On Aug 30, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Bill Davies <wedavies@ptd.net
>
> > <mailto:wedavies%40ptd.net>> wrote:
> > >
> > >I may be mistaken however I believe that muriatic
> acid is a dilute form
> > >of hydrogen chloride (hydrochloric acid). Copper in
> any form,
> > >hydrochloric or any other acid, is at best risky. I
> have been a fish
> > >keeper for over 40 years and have never had to
> resort to these extreme
> > >measures. Yes, I have washed out a few tanks in my
> day however I never
> > >regretted doing that. It was a new beginning. If
> any of you readers
> > >would like to see my handywork please mention it.
> > >
> > >On 30-Aug-12 17:41, Tim Hills wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I have "recovered" a tank that had a Copper
> solution used in it and
> > >> stained the silicone blue. Afterwards ghost
> shrimp thrived in that
> > tank.
> > >>
> > >> Muriatic (concentrated Hydrochloric) Acid, the
> kind used for etching
> > >> concrete will dissolve out the remaining
> Copper. Neutralize the tank
> > >> with strong Thiosulphate afterwards.
> > >>
> > >> I would NOT recommend anyone who isn't
> familiar with the safe handling
> > >> of strong acids to even think about it though.
> Cu Sulphates and Oxides
> > >> can also be reduced to Chlorides with standard
> bleach but plan on
> > having
> > >> your tank sitting full of fixer for a week or
> so after.
> > >>
> > >> Tim Hills
> > >>
> > >> On 8/30/2012 15:02, Dawn Moneyhan wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Just a quick warning about this stuff...
> not all fish can tolerate it
> > >> > either. Some fish, in particular
> scaleless (loaches, some kinds of
> > >> > catfish, etc) are very sensitive to
> anything with copper in it.
> > >> > Copper also leaves a residue in the
> silicone, so once it is used in a
> > >> > tank then there is very little chance of
> any inverts (shrimps,
> > snails,
> > >> > etc) of any species to survive in that
> tank in the future. I wish
> > >> > these companies would put proper and
> complete warnings on these kinds
> > >> > of products.
> > >> >
> > >> > Dawn
> > >> >
> > >> > Dawn Moneyhan
> > >> > Aquatics Specialist/Nutritionist
> > >> > To learn more about me go to
> > >> > http://www.helium.com/users/449334
> > >> >
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