Sunday, September 30, 2012

Re: [AquaticLife] Re: X2.... Q#3.

 

Hi Al,

Don't you mean to put the shims near the middle rather than the end of
the tank because it is in the centre of the tank that you have the space if
I'm understanding the problem right? I occasionally set up a small 15
gallon hospital tank on a coffee table, that also sags in the middle so I
put in a couple of small timbers in the middle that are exactly the same
height as the legs at the ends & that takes care of the sag.

Another solution would be to pack the space in the middle of the tank with
something like polystyrene or expanded foam but you need to ensure the
weight of the tank is not going to further deform the table top or you
could end up with the tank just being supported at either end which would
put a great deal of strain on it. Personally I would go for the supporting
timbers if that is a viable option.

John*<o)))<*

On 30 September 2012 03:53, Al Keep <al_keep_fish@yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Thanks folks.
> I'll just be selling the old tank, hood and light; all the contents and
> filter will be transfered. I also keep my glass pretty clean... I scrape it
> down with a plastic card once a week...[ my fishing licence from last year
> actually.... I don't think they get the irony though.. :-)>>> ]
> So as thats the case, there probably won't be enough seed material to
> worry about or tell anyone of... I'll just tell them about cycling ... if
> they will listen...tank for sale $__ ... includes some expertise I have in
> setting it up... lol.
> Q3
> I do have another question... this will all happen next week, and I like
> to be prepared.
> The old industrial table we use is quite strong enough I'm sure... it
> looks to be early 20th century...[ I threw a pic of it in my folder ] It is
> 44 x 21 inches, the legs are sturdy, and the wood its made of, including
> the two planks that make up its top, are a full inch thick hardwood.... we
> may even stick a small dresser under it for more storage, if we can find
> one that fits under fairly snug.
> The thing that concerns me more with the 36 x 18 tank.... as opposed to
> the 20 g. tank, is that the table top is not perfectly flat. It sags a bit
> down the center of the length of it; anywhere from 1/8 to a 1/4 inch from
> its highest point; so I'm thinking I should put a few shims at each end of
> the tank, and gently hammer them tight.
> Has anyone done this before? and would it be wood shims that would be
> recommended? Would any wood do?
> I'm thinking I may also fill in under the glass with some styrofoam or??
> any other suggestions... oops does that make it Q4? :-)>>>
>
> Thanks again.
> As soon as I hit send I will probably think of another question.. nice to
> have this pool of knoledge though.
>
> Al.
>
> --- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, SIMMONDS JOHN <simmonds.john@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Al,
> >
> > Whatever fish you keep a larger amount of water & therefore swimming
> > space is always good. Regarding the gravel, if the new gravel is the same
> > type as the old then by all means gently mix them together so that the
> good
> > bugs on the established stuff can colonise the new. If you want to
> replace
> > the old gravel with a different colour or type then make some pantyhose
> > sausages of the old gravel & lay them on the new gravel so the seeding
> > process can take place & after a couple of weeks you can take the
> sausages
> > out & you have nicely seeded new gravel.
> >
> > Regarding your second question, if the tank you are getting rid of is
> glass
> > then make sure it is almost completely drained before attempting to move
> it
> > or it will break because the seals are not strong enough for the
> pressure.
> > Only keep enough water in it to just cover the gravel in the bottom &
> even
> > then try to move it on a rigid board so there is no sideways movement or
> > strain on the corner seals. Any larger items of decor or plants should be
> > transported separately in buckets of old tank water. You would also need
> to
> > refill the tank & start up a cycled filter within a few hours to get some
> > oxygenation going or you risk the good bacteria dying off. I don't think
> > the algae on the glass would have any significant effect as long as you
> > have a cycled filter &/or gravel in the tank & having the tank almost
> empty
> > would be a good opportunity to clean the glass. Generally if the residue
> on
> > the glass is anything but green then clean it off but green is good
> > although it can look messy.
> >
> > John*<o)))<
> >
> > *
> > On 27 September 2012 21:02, Al Keep <al_keep_fish@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Two times I say.
> > > Two times the water.
> > > After not being able to find a part for my telescope that
> > > I wanted; I decided that, the birthday money can make itself
> > > quite at home in another hobby.... the water shall be doubled.
> > > The 20 gallon tank will be replaced with a 40... breeder most call it.
> > > 36', 18', 16'
> > > It will fit nicely on the antique table we use.
> > > And my wife is right on board
> > > with the project, win, win. :-)>>>
> > > I'll need a tank, hood, light combo, another 100w heater,
> > > and a bag of gravel. I have lots of decorations, ect...
> > > cuzz I like to change stuff around.
> > > I'm thinkin this will allow for a couple more platies,
> > > and or corries and either 1 angelfish or
> > > blood red parrot cichlid.
> > > 2 questions.
> > > 1. Mix the gravel together? old stuff on top or botttom?
> > > Doesn't matter?
> > > 2. If I could find someone in town to buy my old tank....
> > > would it be worthwile rushing it to its new home?
> > > Would it save much cycling time?
> > > Would the bio matter on the glass have such a short
> > > shelf/travel life, as to make it inconsequential.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > Al. There may be a pic or two in the future.
> > > :-)>>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>

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