--- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, sevenspringss@... wrote:
> I don't understand your being in favor of maintaining that much
> (4.0 ppm) more ammonia in a tank for fishless cycling, but not
> wanting to maintain 1.0 ppm ammonia to cycle as tank (with Joe's
> parameters) having a fish in it.
Isn't that obvious? With fishless cycling there are no fish, so elevated ammonia levels won't hurt any living things in a tank. And you don't really care how long the cycle takes with respect to stressing fish. So if something in your tank's setup and conditions causes the tank to take an extra long time to cycle, the only thing this bothers is the convenience of the tank owner, not potentially harming living creatures in your care.
> I'm sure Joe's responsible enough to use as a good dechloraminator
> with any tap water he adds to his tank, and this will render any
> free ammonia harmless by converting it to ammonium.
Yes, if he uses public water that requires it. Probably a good assumption he is on public water so you are probably correct.
However not everyone is. I have a private well, so one of the advantages of this is I can go straight from tap to tank with no treatment. Very convenient when you use a Python water changing device as I only need to adjust for temperature before refilling the tank.
> If he doesn't do a PWC after two days, he can still add some
> dechloraminator after that time to keep any organic waste
> ammonia/ammonium (from the fish) from remaining as free ammonia.
Which is a good suggestion and perhaps we should be suggesting that to anyone cycling a new tank even when they are not changing water. Since free ammonia is bad both for fish and the cycle process, I can't think of a reason off the top of my head that adding some every couple days would be a bad idea.
Cheers,
Patrick
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