Interesting Dawn I had read that the freezer wasn't kind. Glad to hear it is really a good method after all. Does this go for aquatic frogs too?
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>Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Re: Glowfish pictures posted
>To: "tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com" <tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com>
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>http://www.oscarfishlover.com/helpful-articles/euthanize-fish
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>>moms gonna put her down because I can't do it. I don't want to kill my baby girl. I feel bad if I did.
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