'I don't agree with the fact that it is always present in your tank".
My point was......A fishes immune system is it's first line of defense against possible 100 different diseases that fish can come down with.
"Then you are saying that my 55 gallon has a chance of becoming infected
with ick because I have never had no fish in it since I had ick in it."
I'm simple saying it would make a lot of sense to give your fish the best chance of survival by insuring the health of their immune system by frequent water changes, not overcrowding, quality fish food fed sparingly.
"I don't have test strips I can never be sure what the ammonia levels
are) none of my fish have gotten ill."
Without testing your water parameters, when something does go wrong how will you figure out how to fix it?.
Anytime I post in any forum, on any topic it is to help someone if I can.
Particularly here, where there are a lot of beginners who could use help starting out right and developing some good fish keeping habits.
They're your fish. You can do it anyway you want. There are some accepted basics that work.
If you don't want to follow them that's your prerogative.
Aquariums make excellent Hamster habitats.
Harry
From: Amber Larr <love_animals07@yahoo.com>
To: "AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com" <AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AquaticLife] ICK ......something to consider.
I don't agree with the fact that it is always present in your tank. In fact, I bet you I could prove it to you now by taking two of my perfectly fine tiger barbs and stressing both of them. One in a 10 gallon never infected with ick and the other in the 10 gallon that I just lost two barbs to a few weeks ago. I can almost be 100% certain that neither will get ick. Neither. I would do it, too, if I had some barbs to spare but I don't and I'd rather not end up with dead fish. Maybe in the future I will.
Anyway, your tank is considered free of ick after a few weeks of it sitting empty. Why? Because it cannot survive with a host. Well, I'm sure you are thinking what if it has a host? Then you are saying that my 55 gallon has a chance of becoming infected with ick because I have never had no fish in it since I had ick in it. Well, no matter how much I neglect that tank (Usually not too much but as I don't have test strips I can never be sure what the ammonia levels are) none of my fish have gotten ill. None. Want me to prove it? I'm sure I can get two more barbs and torture them both just to show you I'm right.(Just kidding) Luckily, I'm not that type of person so you don't have to worry about animal abuse from me. But isn't that how these things are found out? Perhaps I can go to my local walmart or meijer and get some of their disgusting fish. The ones infected with ick... They would have died anyway, and maybe I can even save them... Sorry, I'm just
rambling on to myself. I'm concentrating on stocking my tank right now, so I'm definitely not going to start sacrificing fish in the name of science.
I believe that the only way you can get ick is if it is introduced to your tank by infected fish or ornaments. That's all. But, like I sort of said earlier, I can only be ALMOST certain of this. Not completely, so please don't kill me if new research comes out that says it can hide in your tank for a long time, okay. :)
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From: harry perry <harryfisherman@yahoo.com>
To: "AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com" <AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:38 AM
Subject: [AquaticLife] ICK ......something to consider.
Over the years there has been a lot written about ICK or ICH.
The consensus seems to be that it is always present in our tanks and the only reason your fish doesn't come down with it is because of their immune system.
Of course if you introduce new fish to your tank and they have it, your asking for trouble.
As a moderator I get to read all the posts and I can tell you every time I see an ICK problem the same conditions are present.
Infrequent water changes, overfeeding and too many fish for your tank.
Overcrowding is the quickest way to compromise a fish's immune system.
I feed my fish once every other day. Unless they are fry. I've read all the fish food containers. There will always be food left over and the excess food is algae food because of all the phosphates that the food adds to the tank.
A tank will start out with a bunch of pretty fish, everybody healthy, it looks great, life is good. Then.....all of a sudden.... your fish are scratching themselves on the rocks. They have these white specks, what happened???? I take care of my fish.
What happened is the fish grew bigger and what once was nice tank is now a nightmare.
My local LFS sells 3" Alligator Gars.
While trophy bass fishing in Florida I caught Alligator gars, they were 4 foot long.
When buying fish you need to consider what the fish will grow to be.
Oscar seem to be everywhere this fish grows to 12" that's 2 fish in a 100 gallon tank. Doesn't make sense to me unless you just love Oscars.
The moral of this story ???? Go back to basics and research your fish before you buy them.
Harry
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