John, you are correct about chlorine being a dangerous way to attempt to treat any fish. Chlorine also kills beneficial bacteria on contact. Put simply, chlorine is toxic and that is one major reason why we in the fish hobby teach the use of water conditioners to all... to remove/detoxify the chlorine found in many water supplies.
I read through that article at Wikipedia and was quite upset by the number of errors in their information. If you noticed, there was a tag/note in that article explaining that nobody claimed their place as author to that information and provided no references, thus that particular writing could at some point be removed if it is challenged. If I had the time to devote to it right now I would be contacting them at Wikipedia and challenging it myself.
This is one more example of not believing everything you read just because it's on the internet. For all we know that article was written by a child or someone who has no real knowledge or experience with fish or ich. The way that article is written I would have to suspect it is one of those because it shows a large lack of knowledge about the topic.
Dawn
--- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, SIMMONDS JOHN <simmonds.john@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Charles,
>
> I was interested to see Chlorine treatment mentioned as one of the
> options on the Wikipedia page for treating Koi & Goldfish-surely the
> poisonous effects of the Chlorine would make this treatment deadly or am I
> missing something?
>
> John*<o)))<*
>
>
> On 31 May 2013 03:48, Charles Harrison <charles@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Please reference:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthyophthirius_multifiliis
> >
> > "There is no dormant stage in the lifecycle. Ich does not lie in wait
> > for a weakened fish to infect. However, any facto . . . "
> >
> > There have been many serious investigations into the life cycle of
> > the Protozoa.
> >
> > Also PLEASE Note:
> >
> > " Heat treatment
> > Heat treatment can be highly effective, and it can be combined with
> > other treatments. However, it can only be used on fish that can
> > tolerate high water temperatures, and is unsuitable for cold water
> > fish like koi and goldfish, but even in those cases, a higher water
> > temperature will accelerate the life-cycle of the parasite, allowing
> > other treatments to take effect sooner."
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > There is very good information in this reference and the references
> > included.
> >
> > Charles Harrison
> >
> > >I don't agree with the fact that it is always present in your tank.
> > >In fact, I bet you I could prove it to you now by taking two of my
> > >perfectly fine tiger barbs and stressing both of them. One in a 10
> > >gallon never infected with ick and the other in the 10 gallon that I
> > >just lost two barbs to a few weeks ago. I can almost be 100% certain
> > >that neither will get ick. Neither. I would do it, too, if I had
> > >some barbs to spare but I don't and I'd rather not end up with dead
> > >fish. Maybe in the future I will.
> > >
> > >
> > >Anyway, your tank is considered free of ick after a few weeks of it
> > >sitting empty. Why? Because it cannot survive with a host. Well, I'm
> > >sure you are thinking what if it has a host? Then you are saying
> > >that my 55 gallon has a chance of becoming infected with ick because
> > >I have never had no fish in it since I had ick in it. Well, no
> > >matter how much I neglect that tank (Usually not too much but as I
> > >don't have test strips I can never be sure what the ammonia levels
> > >are) none of my fish have gotten ill. None. Want me to prove it? I'm
> > >sure I can get two more barbs and torture them both just to show you
> > >I'm right.(Just kidding) Luckily, I'm not that type of person so you
> > >don't have to worry about animal abuse from me. But isn't that how
> > >these things are found out? Perhaps I can go to my local walmart or
> > >meijer and get some of their disgusting fish. The ones infected with
> > >ick... They would have died anyway, and maybe I can even save
> > >them... Sorry, I'm just
> > > rambling on to myself. I'm concentrating on stocking my tank right
> > >now, so I'm definitely not going to start sacrificing fish in the
> > >name of science.
> > >
> > >
> > >I believe that the only way you can get ick is if it is introduced
> > >to your tank by infected fish or ornaments. That's all. But, like I
> > >sort of said earlier, I can only be ALMOST certain of this. Not
> > >completely, so please don't kill me if new research comes out that
> > >says it can hide in your tank for a long time, okay. :)
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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