Just a quick note about the 10 gallon hospital tank... there should be no substrate in this tank and no live plants. Pieces of pvc pipe make wonderful hiding places in a hospital tank, are easy to clean afterwards, and provide plenty of shelter for the fish. Just make sure pvc is plenty wide enough that the fish can't get stuck and avoid elbow pieces. Plastic and silk plants can also be used safely in a hospital tank.
Dawn
--- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <sevenspringss1@...> wrote:
>
> Okay then, we see it's impossible to get a pic of Whiskers in the aquarium if not confined. So if you could just confirm that the issue concerning Whiskers is that he has what appears to be open sores on his body -- as suspected from as much as can be seen by the photos -- then we'll know that's what we're dealing with.
>
> As it's taken you some time to get back to us on this, I'm assuming you're not available during the day, but his treatment should be started without further delay. I haven't seen any test results from you, as asked for. Do you have testing equipment for the parameters I asked for? If not, I'd advise you get a master test kit (containing tests for at least ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and pH), as you'll always have a use for it in addition to actually having a specific need for it when health issues come up in your fish. But, if you can't get this test kit in short time, you'll need to attend to Whiskers now. If you have a test kit, let us know the tests results.
>
> Clean the 10 gallon tank out and refill it with (only) water from the 50 gallon tank, but fill in only with about 7 gallons of water (it doesn't have to be precise). Then, fill it up the rest of the way with tap water of the same temperature (as near as you can approximate it) and add only enough water conditioner for 3 gallons -- of the tap water -- to remove the chloramine. Then place Whiskers in this tank and add the medication (Fungus Clear) you said you got; one tablet to this 10 gallon tank. Continue treating as per the directions on the label.
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> Ray
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> --- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, "Michelle" <kittycathobbes@> wrote:
> >
> > isn't possible. he hides the moment he touches the water.
> >
> > --- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, "dawnshungryeyes4u2c" <dawnshungryeyes4u2c@> wrote:
> > >
> > > As Ray pointed out, my suggestion of photographing the catfish out of the bag meant to photograph him while he is in the tank, not to "carry him outside of the water". That thought had never crossed my mind.
> > >
> > > Once again I have to agree with everything Ray has covered in his last posts in this thread. We are here to help but we need information to be able to help you (or anyone who needs it). Taking care of fish, especially in regards to medical issues, requires a bit of protocol in regards to safety. Many medications (or specifically, the ingredients within the medications) can turn toxic if water quality is not first checked and deemed within safe ranges. Some ingredients react strongly to ammonia, some to nitrite, and some to both. To offer a safe suggestion of treatment we first need to know where the water quality is at so we can suggest something that will not react negatively with points within the water chemistry. Not knowing or taking these precautionary steps could mean the difference between a recovering fish or a dead one.
> > >
> > > Dawn
> > >
> > > --- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, "Michelle" <kittycathobbes@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My catfish has spikes. I dont think I could carry him outside of water even if I wanted to.
> > > >
> > > > --- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, "dawnshungryeyes4u2c" <dawnshungryeyes4u2c@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I came to the same conclusion about that link as Ray did... not to mention that most of the medications listed there would be far too harsh to treat Michelle's fish.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michelle, your fish appears to be a species of synodontis catfish though as Ray has already mentioned, the photos of it in the bag make it impossible to offer you more info and make it impossible to identify anything such as fin rot.
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree with the advice Ray offered in terms of hospital tank, water quality, and medication choice. Be careful not to get carried away with medications. Synodontis catfish are scaleless fish and very sensitive to medications. Using the wrong med could easily kill your fish.
> > > > >
> > > > > In regards to your mention of your catfish eating your other fish, can you please tell us what other fish he has been sharing a tank with? Synodontis will tend to eat smaller fish that easily fit into their mouths, as will many other catfish species. That is their nature. If you send us a better photo of your catfish (out of the bag) we should be able to help you determine a more exact ID so you know how big this fish will grow to be, and thus that should help determine what other fish are safe as tank mates long term.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck with your fish.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dawn
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <sevenspringss1@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As my IE browser would not open the link provided, I had to cut & paste it to my Mozilla FGirefox browser to open it. Unless I was redirected to a different page than what was intended, I read a series of posts -- both by the owner of a Cory Catfish named "Feldman," and by a couple of advisors to the owner. Unfortunated, because of an undeterminable diagnoses and indeterminate recommendations of medications (Maroxy, Erythromycin, Tetracycline and Kanamycin) for treatments not necessarily connected to Feldman's illness (never concluded), this fish died. So, I have a feeling I was not on the right page. Could the contents of this link's page be explained (in short) here?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For Michelle, What size hospital tank did you put Whiskers in, and what are its water parameters (in numbers)? Do you have any other fish in the same tank that you just took him out of? If so, what are those water parameters? Please follow up on this part as any other fish in this main tank would be at risk.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In looking over your photos, it's hard to see much detail when the plastic bag this fish is in obscures a good view. I don't really see the Fin Rot that John happens to see, but that's not to say it's not there. Just that I'm not picking up on that detail with the fish's fins being largely closed (and the plastic obscuring my view). I do see a couple of white blotches (one larger than the other) on the fish's side, beneath the dorsal fin, unless they're reflections from the plastic bag. As I'm seeing these blotches in all three pics though, I'm starting to assume this is an issue that needs attending to. If what I'm seeing is actually on the fish, it appears to be a bacterial infection, but if there's any dead or dying tissue caused by the bacteria, fungus could soon set it if it hasn't already as it's often a secondary infection.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As we need to stay away from any dye medications, or any medications containing a dye in addition to its main ingredient(s), the medication of choice here would be Jungle Lab's (trademark) Fungus Clear; it's ingedients address both fungal and bacterial issues -- especially gram-negative bacteria which would be the cause for this issue. Before admninistering any medications though, the water must be relatively free of contaminants, especially those contaminants caused by organic wastes. If in doubt about the hospital tank's water being suitable to use for treatment (medication) purposes, feel free to give us those water parameters. You may need to make at least a 1/3 partial water change to this tank before medicating, as is often recommended on most med's labels, but this remains to be seen. BTW, this medication will also address Fin Rot if it's present.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ray
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, harry perry <harryfisherman@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/132050-help-help-cotton-like-fungus-on-cory-catfish-pictures/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Try this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Harry
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> > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > From: Michelle <kittycathobbes@>
> > > > > > > To: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:54 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [AquaticLife] Re: EMERGENCY
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > Â
> > > > > > > The water was bad so I moved him but now I really need to find a treatment
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com, SIMMONDS JOHN <simmonds.john@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Michelle,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Your Catfish looks to have some serious fin rot & probably other stuff
> > > > > > > > going on as well. I don't want to advise about medications because a) I
> > > > > > > > don't know anything about Catfish treatment & b) I'm in the UK so your
> > > > > > > > medications in the States are different to ours. Hopefully someone on your
> > > > > > > > side of the pond can help you out there real soon.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I do notice that the water in the bag is rather cloudy so if the water in
> > > > > > > > your tank is like that too then you need to do some serious partial water
> > > > > > > > changes because the toxins could be well off the scale & that will weaken
> > > > > > > > your fish further. Do you have a test kit & if so can you tell us what the
> > > > > > > > readings are for your tank?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > John*<o)))<*
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 23 July 2013 09:52, Michelle <kittycathobbes@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > I have no idea what this is but it is harming my fish!!!!! It is a catfish
> > > > > > > > > (look at the picture I post of my catfish!!) someone please help me! I love
> > > > > > > > > whiskers with all my heart
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