Fish: Re: [tropical fish club] Re: Grow a Fish kits

Hi Dawn,

I don't know about an Island or even a small country for that
matter but I think it's safe to say that here on these groups at least,
we are all animal lovers period. I don't think anyone on these fish groups would miss treat any animal. That's one fact that we all agree on.

This recent cut from Ray's post really says a lot; "the members receiving them are usually responsible enough to see to their well being". That's the part that is important.

When you come down to it, it is not only just pet education but a matter of life's values or belief's that is important. All living things have a right too life. That's not coming from any of us but a power much further up the food chain than any of us. You either believe that and respect it or you don't. Usually, those that don't, really don't respect much else either.

It's just a fish throw it away? Fine! Try to make a new one! You can't, but maybe some day the being that can will give up on trying to teach us and then what will we have? Just a lot of inanimate things like computers that have no vibrant colors, cannot move or show any type of love or affection--------------they just sit there waiting to be thrown in the trash when a new one comes along.

just my thoughts,

Bill

--- On Wed, 9/15/10, Dawn Moneyhan <dawnshungryeyes4u2c@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Dawn Moneyhan <dawnshungryeyes4u2c@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Re: Grow a Fish kits
> To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010, 12:11 AM
> If the people selling the eggs were
> to hold to those kinds of standards, they wouldn't sell much
> for eggs, wouldn't make much for money, thus, wouldn't meet
> that bottom line we have been discussing. That is what
> happens to anything that is commercialized. We had the
> same issues at the store, not wanting to sell to people who
> were open about the fact they were going to take the fish
> home, neglect them and watch them die... yet we still had to
> sell them because otherwise the store would go out of
> business.
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> A big part of the solution is in teaching (and reteaching)
> people about morals, humanity, respect... but not enough
> people today care about those things anymore. Ultimately
> that seals the fate for all of us... fish/animals and the
> human race.
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> I vote that we get together and buy an island in the South
> Pacific somewhere and start a "new world" where those things
> mean something again. ;-) Then we can take all the fish
> and other animals with us, lol.
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> Dawn
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> Dawn Moneyhan
> Aquatics Specialist/Nutritionist
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> --- On Tue, 9/14/10, Donna King <donnalynneking@yahoo.com>
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> From: Donna King <donnalynneking@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Re: Grow a Fish kits
> To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010, 9:49 PM
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> From: Ray <sevenspringss@wmconnect.com>
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> Many of the Nothobranchius species' males are noted for
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> Semi-Annual and behaves as such for
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> I'll reiterate that most Killies are quite peaceful.
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> old favorite Lyretail Killiefish (Aphyosemion australe) --
> which has been in the
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