Fish: Re: [tropical fish club] Re: Planted tank ?'s

You can make an album here on the group ;-) I looked you up but ran out of time to look....

Donna

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> From: Bill Davies <wedavies@ptd.net>
>Re: Planted tank ?'s
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>You Tube: Celt4400 for some of my stuff. There is some other stuff
>there too but you don't have to look at. Where would you like me to
>post the pictures?
>Bill
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>On 31-Aug-12 08:35, Donna King wrote:
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>> I agree we all love photo's!
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>> Donna
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>> > From: Cari <cahyman@yahoo.com <mailto:cahyman%40yahoo.com>>
>> >Re: Planted tank ?'s
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>> >Sure, please post pics!!
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>> >Sent from my iPhone
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>> >On Aug 30, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Bill Davies <wedavies@ptd.net
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>> >I may be mistaken however I believe that muriatic acid is a dilute form
>> >of hydrogen chloride (hydrochloric acid). Copper in any form,
>> >hydrochloric or any other acid, is at best risky. I have been a fish
>> >keeper for over 40 years and have never had to resort to these extreme
>> >measures. Yes, I have washed out a few tanks in my day however I never
>> >regretted doing that. It was a new beginning. If any of you readers
>> >would like to see my handywork please mention it.
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>> >On 30-Aug-12 17:41, Tim Hills wrote:
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>> >> I have "recovered" a tank that had a Copper solution used in it and
>> >> stained the silicone blue. Afterwards ghost shrimp thrived in that
>> tank.
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>> >> Muriatic (concentrated Hydrochloric) Acid, the kind used for etching
>> >> concrete will dissolve out the remaining Copper. Neutralize the tank
>> >> with strong Thiosulphate afterwards.
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>> >> I would NOT recommend anyone who isn't familiar with the safe handling
>> >> of strong acids to even think about it though. Cu Sulphates and Oxides
>> >> can also be reduced to Chlorides with standard bleach but plan on
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>> >> your tank sitting full of fixer for a week or so after.
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>> >> Tim Hills
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>> >> On 8/30/2012 15:02, Dawn Moneyhan wrote:
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>> >> > Just a quick warning about this stuff... not all fish can tolerate it
>> >> > either. Some fish, in particular scaleless (loaches, some kinds of
>> >> > catfish, etc) are very sensitive to anything with copper in it.
>> >> > Copper also leaves a residue in the silicone, so once it is used in a
>> >> > tank then there is very little chance of any inverts (shrimps,
>> snails,
>> >> > etc) of any species to survive in that tank in the future. I wish
>> >> > these companies would put proper and complete warnings on these kinds
>> >> > of products.
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>> >> > Dawn
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>> >> > Dawn Moneyhan
>> >> > Aquatics Specialist/Nutritionist
>> >> > To learn more about me go to
>> >> > http://www.helium.com/users/449334
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