Fish: Re: [tropical fish club] Cleaning more carefully.

Bill,
Thanks for the explanation here. But you are correct....with my cold tap
water being so warm....I can't
do something like you do with the hose since my water has to either sit for
hours or I need to put some
ice in the buckets to cool them off. My cold water tap does cool off some in
the winter months. But living
in the desert here in the Phoenix area you just learn to live with no "cold"
water coming from your tap. It helps
with the hot water heaters not working so hard in the summer. We can take a
shower in the summer with no
hot water turned on at all! LOL!

I am 61 years young and have been diagnosed with Degenerative Disc Disease
in my lower back. So far
it is manageable with no pain medication. And I can still manage to carry a
bucket or two from my tank to the
bathroom to dump it. But if my back feels a bit worse than usual I use the
roll cart. So far so good.

I usually use 2 buckets for the clean new water to sit to cool and two
different buckets to remove the old
tank water. I measured 3 gallons of water into each of my five - 5 gallon
buckets I have and drew a black
line with a marker on the outside of the bucket to show the 3 gallon level
in the bucket. I did the same thing
at the 4 gallon level. This is so I know how many gallons I am removing from
the tank to match the number of
gallons I want to replace with new water. I never fill the buckets with more
than 4 gallons for two reasons: one is it
makes them too heavy and the other is they are more apt to spill when I
carry them. So 3 or 4 gallons per bucket is
fine for me.

Just the way I figured out how to do it. When I had 3 aquariums (40 and two
20's) 17 years ago the buckets were no problem for me carrying them back and
forth. ; ) Plus the aquariums back then were about 15 feet from my kitchen
sink. This tank is in my living room about 50 to 60 feet from my kitchen
sink. As I age, it is getting more of a concern.
Thanks for letting us know how you do it with a hose!

Connie

-------Original Message-------

From: bill 1433
Date: 09/29/12 09:13:54
To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Cleaning more carefully.

Hi Connie,

Before I even try to answer your questions I must ask that you forgive my
ignorance! I never dreamed that someone could have almost a complete
reversal of my water situations here in PA with water that is too hot rather
than too cold.

To start with, I doubt that my system would work at all for you because your
starting or out of the faucet temperature, of your COLD water is much above
where you are trying to get to for your tank temperatures. But that not
withstanding, I'll press on in the event that we have some folks reading
this that do not have a cold water fed with temperatures that are as high as
yours.

Yes, you are correct, the mixing lever or faucet is the single lever type
faucet that furnishes both hot and cold water at the same time. Usually
attached to your kitchen or bathroom sink. At the actual point (the bottom
part of the faucet) where the water comes out is a small aperture called a
water aerator. This is screwed directly into the faucet. You need an
economical adapter that will have the same size threads on one end of it as
the aerator does and have course thread on the other end for a garden hose
fitting. Installing this to your single lever faucet and your off.

To siphon water, first fill the hose, place it in the bottom of the tank, go
back and disconnect from your faucet and then allow the hose to drain into
the floor drain or if your tank is higher than your toilet, into it.
Worried about catching any aquarium gravel as you clean? Get yourself some
standard fiberglass replacement screen at the hardware store, wrap it around
the hose end and fasten it with rubber bands.

While all of this may seem discouraging to you Connie, on the flip side of
it all, you must be in great condition, handling all of those buckets.
Although in most cases, aquarists usually dream of bigger tanks, I suppose
that this is not true in your case. Having a 55 or 75 gallon tank could
really be a nightmare unless you have the funds for an aquarium chiller.
Yes, they have them. Our salt-water friends use them for certain spies of
fish. Sorry I could not be of more help to you.

bill in pa

--- On Sat, 9/29/12, Connie Watson <clw51@cox.net> wrote:

> From: Connie Watson <clw51@cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Cleaning more carefully.
> To: "Tropical Fish Club" <tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, September 29, 2012, 3:42 AM
> LOL! OK, Bill, a question or two.
> You run the hose from your kitchen faucet to the tank....
> How do you remove the old tank water before adding the new
> water?
> Do you add straight tap water into the tank with the hose?
> What about the de-chlorinator, etc.?
>
> I don't know what a mixing lever is....Do you mean the
> faucet handle?
> Getting the correct water temp from my faucet (mixing the
> hot and cold
> water)
> in the summer is impossible since my straight cold tap
> water
> is about 5 to 7 degrees too hot for my tank.
> Even now in the end of September the water is too
> warm.....it was about 85
> degrees
> out of my cold water tap today.
>
> I wish I could do something like this, but I just don't see
> how.
> What I do with the filled 5 gallon buckets is lift them onto
> a roll cart,
> the cart will hold two buckets at a time and roll them into
> the bathroom
> where I dump the
> old water down the toilet. We have a yard that is totally
> rock front and
> back,
> so I have no plants to "water" with the old tank water.
>
> The new water I gather at the kitchen sink and lift the
> buckets onto
> the roll cart (utility cart) and roll them to the tank in my
> foyer/living
> room area
> where they sit for hours cooling down.
>
> Of course I do that in reverse order...LOL! First I get the
> new water in the
> buckets by
> the tank to sit all day to cool off. Then when the new water
> is cool enough
> I take the old water out of the tank I using two other
> buckets and roll them
> into the bathroom to dump them. Then I add the new treated
> water.
>
> Connie
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: bill 1433
> Date: 09/28/12 10:21:27
> To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Cleaning more carefully.
>
> Hi Connie,
>
> Maybe you might want to consider my method? A bit
> older than you and
> carting buckets of good water or the discarded stuff, from
> the tank is not
> my idea of fun. It doesn't do your legs or back much
> good either!
>
> My preferred method? A garden hose right through the
> house! No, I'm not
> kidding. Years ago when I had considerably more and
> much larger tanks than
> what I have now I would do my water changes every week with
> my wife going
> behind me mumbling under her breath with a mop. One
> day, after I had just
> setup my third 100–gallon tank, she lost it! Why
> don't you just run a
> garden hose right through the house, you're ruining our
> rugs and they never
> even have a chance to dry!
>
> Good woman that she is, she had a point. Being caught
> up in the hobby, I
> had not noticed the damage I was causing. How it works
> for me is that I use
> an adapter from the hardware store that simply screws into
> the faucet after
> I remove the water aerator from it. Even with the
> 29-gallon tank I have now
> it only takes me ten or fifteen minutes to change twelve
> gallons of water
> twice a week. I use the mixing lever at the sink
> (which I already have
> marked, using a retired swimming pool thermometer), it only
> takes a moment
> or so to get the correct water temperature. Actually I
> probably save water
> doing it this way. Trust me, your back and legs will
> love you for it! And
> a bonus, no spill's to clean up afterward either!
>
> bill in pa
>
>
> --- On Fri, 9/28/12, Connie Watson <clw51@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Connie Watson <clw51@cox.net>
> > Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Cleaning more
> carefully.
> > To: "Tropical Fish Club" <tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 11:50 AM
> > Good luck, Cari, I have seen
> > advertised this water change hoses that connect
> > to the tap.
> > I wondered about putting tap water directly into the
> tank
> > before treating
> > with something to
> > remove the toxins. My tank is a good 75 feet from a
> water
> > source so it is
> > out of the question
> > for me as it would be very expensive and my tank is
> only a
> > 29 gallon. The
> > sets I have seen are
> > around $80 for a 25 foot length set.
> >
> > Connie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Cari
> > Date: 9/28/2012 9:40:25 AM
> > To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Cleaning more
> carefully.
> >
> > I am cycling my first big fish tank now. Connie, I am
> buying
> > that pump
> > syphon thing. My lips are sealed!!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Sep 28, 2012, at 11:35 AM, "Connie Watson" <clw51@cox.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I have a vacuum with a hand pump in the tubing. Love it
> so
> > much more than
> > the vacs without it. I used to have to do the "plug the
> end
> > of the hose and
> > fill with water from the tank, then lower the plugged
> end
> > into a bucket
> > lower than the tank and let it go". Sometimes that
> worked
> > and sometimes it
> > didn't. I had tank water in my mouth before years ago
> from
> > trying to get the
> > water flow started. Nasty stuff. Glad you are better,
> take
> > care.
> > Connie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Diana Snyder
> > Date: 9/28/2012 9:26:24 AM
> > To: tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Cleaning more
> carefully.
> >
> > Ya,they all kinda wanted to laugh.Like how in hell or
> why
> > would you swallow
> > fish tank water ? My husband still jokes about it.Till
> he
> > see the bill.I
> > think I'm fine.But have to recheck my blood in a
> month.It
> > was really bad
> > experience for me.
> > I here turkey baster works.??going to try.But normal
> syphon
> > will not work
> > with tiny frys.Thank you Cari.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Cari <cahyman@yahoo.com>
> > To: "tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com"
> > <tropicalfishclub@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 8:08 AM
> > Subject: Re: [tropical fish club] Cleaning more
> carefully.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Omg! Are you ok? Were they surprised in the ER how you
> got
> > sick, or do they
> > see that all the time? Can you syphon with some other
> device
> > other than you,
> > lol!!! I'm no breeder, but I am a nurse. I would
> probably
> > have to privately
> > laugh if a patient told me they swallowed fish tank
> water.
> > Grin. Hope you
> > are ok.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Sep 28, 2012, at 11:03 AM, "Snyder"
> > <mailto:dianasnyder249%40yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I'm most like going to get some "how stupids" for you
> > all.But a week and
> > half ago .I ended up in ER .I was cleaning a fry tank
> air
> > tube.like alot of
> > breeders do.And water went down and swallow it before
> I
> > could even think.I
> > Almost had to get a blood tarnsfusion.Fish water can
> kill
> > you.Or make you
> > wish you were dead.And metor is not fun for humans to
> > take.Side effects are
> > wild.Diana
> >
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